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Slidell teacher fired for "racist" facebook post. Wait till you see what she wrote...
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:48 am
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:48 am
Is this justice?
Can someone please explain to me how any of this is racist? I've read it numerous times and can't figure this out. She points out historical facts (she should teach history, not math!) and then emphasizes how current negative perceptions are a result of "the few" who act like animals.
If you don't believe her statements to be true, I challenge you (especially if you're white) to go walk around Rocheblave and Dorgenois streets and report back to us.
ETA: I do believe it is stupid for her to post this, especially being a teacher. I think she does a terrible job of explaining her intent; however, I don't find this racist. I do not believe she should be fired or lose her job, regardless of how stupid a decision this was. Really I think anyone posting on facebook and twitter are stupid, so she is the norm for that ridiculous social media community.
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A teacher at Slidell High School is no longer employed with the suburban public school district after making a racially inflammatory Facebook post last week regarding Nike's new Colin Kaepernick ad campaign, the St. Tammany Parish school system announced Tuesday (Sept. 11).
Valerie Scogin, who taught math at the school since 2008, wrote the message in the comment stream of a Slidell High graduate's post on Sept. 5, two days after Nike unveiled its "Dream Crazy" campaign featuring the former NFL quarterback who gained notoriety for leading protests against racial inequality by kneeling during the National Anthem prior to games.
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In the Facebook post, which has been widely circulated on social media, Scogin starts by writing "They don't have to live in that country. They could go back. But it was their own people selling them into slavery to begin with and tearing (treating) them even worse in those countries of origin.
"Want not to be stereotyped, tell people of that color to quit acting like animals and perpetuating the stereotype. Many are average people; the few ruin it."
Can someone please explain to me how any of this is racist? I've read it numerous times and can't figure this out. She points out historical facts (she should teach history, not math!) and then emphasizes how current negative perceptions are a result of "the few" who act like animals.
If you don't believe her statements to be true, I challenge you (especially if you're white) to go walk around Rocheblave and Dorgenois streets and report back to us.
ETA: I do believe it is stupid for her to post this, especially being a teacher. I think she does a terrible job of explaining her intent; however, I don't find this racist. I do not believe she should be fired or lose her job, regardless of how stupid a decision this was. Really I think anyone posting on facebook and twitter are stupid, so she is the norm for that ridiculous social media community.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 12:07 pm
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:50 am to Midget Death Squad
Flip the races of the two parties and suddenly she has job with the NYT.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:51 am to Midget Death Squad
back in my day it took soliciting sex from sopohmore girls to get fired from SHS. (im looking at you, mr luc).
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:52 am to Midget Death Squad
It is social justice
You have a few bad apples - white, Mexican, black, etc. that ruin it for everyone.
You have a few bad apples - white, Mexican, black, etc. that ruin it for everyone.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:54 am to Midget Death Squad
I am usually someone that laughs at "racist claims" and points out the absurdity of the faux outrage. However, this one is pretty bad. There are several parts that I would see as racist.
- They could go back - this is a stupid comment when their ancestors may have been in this country for generations. "Going back" does not make sense. No one would say that to someone of European descent that has been here for generations.
- Tell POC to quit acting like animals. This makes it sound like she is saying all POC act like animals. If she was referring to a smaller group, she should have specified.
- Many are average people. Again - bad word choice. Sounds like she is saying they are only "average".
She may not have meant it to be racist - I have no idea. But I would certainly perceive this to be racist.
- They could go back - this is a stupid comment when their ancestors may have been in this country for generations. "Going back" does not make sense. No one would say that to someone of European descent that has been here for generations.
- Tell POC to quit acting like animals. This makes it sound like she is saying all POC act like animals. If she was referring to a smaller group, she should have specified.
- Many are average people. Again - bad word choice. Sounds like she is saying they are only "average".
She may not have meant it to be racist - I have no idea. But I would certainly perceive this to be racist.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:55 am to Midget Death Squad
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They don't have to live in that country. They could go back. But it was their own people selling them into slavery to begin with and tearing (treating) them even worse in those countries of origin.
quote:That is stereotypical racism. Not debatable.
tell people of that color to quit acting like animals and perpetuating the stereotype
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:55 am to Midget Death Squad
Too bad she apologized.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:56 am to Rocco Lampone
Agreed. And even if she’s not racist (who knows,she might be), she’s definitely stupid. Big time lack of awareness.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:57 am to Midget Death Squad
That’s a stupid post.
I’m not sure I’m sorry she was fired.
I’m not sure I’m sorry she was fired.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:57 am to Rocco Lampone
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a stupid comment
is different from a racist or bigoted comment. Her comments were stupid and probably bigoted but not racist.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:57 am to Midget Death Squad
In any group it’s always a few that ruin it.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:58 am to Midget Death Squad
Whether or not it is true, it was stupid of her to post that.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:01 pm to Midget Death Squad
People in the public eye like police and teachers, should never post their political thoughts on Facebook.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:02 pm to Midget Death Squad
Is she wrong?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:03 pm to Midget Death Squad
I would have voted to fire her had she worked at my school. Teachers are one of those professions which is supposed to have the trust of anyone. How would that woman have the trust of any black students after calling some of them animals?
I certainly wouldn't trust a black teacher with my children if she called whites animals, I'd want her fired, so how can I feel differently when the races are reversed, I"m not a liberal
I certainly wouldn't trust a black teacher with my children if she called whites animals, I'd want her fired, so how can I feel differently when the races are reversed, I"m not a liberal
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:04 pm to Rocco Lampone
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- They could go back - this is a stupid comment when their ancestors may have been in this country for generations. "Going back" does not make sense. No one would say that to someone of European descent that has been here for generations.
I think her intent is that they portend to hate this country, so they can certainly leave and go to their homeland
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- Tell POC to quit acting like animals. This makes it sound like she is saying all POC act like animals. If she was referring to a smaller group, she should have specified.
She clearly states "the few" at the end of her post
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- Many are average people. Again - bad word choice. Sounds like she is saying they are only "average".
Poor word choice, but again I read her intent as average in terms of you, me and most others in this country. I don't read this as calling them "not exceptional," but rather as her saying they aren't animal thugs.
I do agree her post is stupid. It's not something you should ever be putting out there as a teacher. I also believe everyone posting any nonsense on Fauxbook is stupid, so she is part of the norm in that sense.
I do NOT believe she should lose her job though. Stupid post: yes. Racist: no.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:05 pm to Midget Death Squad
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Moronic Slidell teacher fired for "completely unnecessary and stupid" facebook post.
Fixed it for you. Why would she even post that to the public?
I have no sympathy for people losing their jobs for posting useless inflammatory nonsense on social media. Social Media is a dangerous radioactive growth on our society . If you decide to willingly jump into that toxic cesspool, I have no sympathy for you.
She has every right in this country to say whatever stupid things she wants. And her employer has every right to fire her for those comments.
With freedom comes responsibility.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:05 pm to Rocco Lampone
Excellent take, I'd like to add that at a minimum, her word choice was incredibly imflamitory
Plus, she should have damned well known better. It's not like it's a big secret that social media comments can get you fired as a public official, doubly true for educators
Even if she "didn't mean to be racist"; she was very unwise
Plus, she should have damned well known better. It's not like it's a big secret that social media comments can get you fired as a public official, doubly true for educators
Even if she "didn't mean to be racist"; she was very unwise
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:06 pm to Midget Death Squad
The comments were both stupid and racist. This is hard to defend.
Whether she should have been fired is another issue.
Whether she should have been fired is another issue.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:06 pm to Midget Death Squad
She has a right to free speech but holy hell what a dumb thing to say in a public forum.
You really have to ask yourself, what is the upside to posting that before hitting the button.
You really have to ask yourself, what is the upside to posting that before hitting the button.
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