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Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:46 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Go back further. Maybe we shouldn’t have overthrown Mosaddegh.
Operation Ajax
Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:52 pm to John Barron
Well Iran has only said for 46 years Israel is little satan and America is the great Satan. And they chant death to America. Even after John Kerry and Obama were giving them pallets of cash so frick those goat fricking ayatollahs. The people are oppressed. Should we nation build? No. Hasn’t worked out for us but Islamic radicals whose only desire is to erase from humanity anyone who doesn’t believe in allah, frick them. The theory should live and let live but radical jihadists don’t seem to see it that way, so again, frick those goat frickers
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:58 pm to John Barron
quote:Eh. Persians are not Arabs.
So basically Iraq 2.0.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:05 pm to DVNO
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You realize the largest migrant population in Beverly HIlls are Persians, right? Per captia they are more successful than other ethnic groups.
We wouldn't be getting high quality migrants.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:07 pm to SDVTiger
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You clowns act like there isnt an army of persians here in the US ready to go back and rebuild there country
Around here a lot of them are home builders
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:08 pm to CrotchetyCowboy
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Should we nation build? No.
We won't need to nation build if we don't reduce the place to rubble
And I don't think we intend to do that
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:21 pm to BobBoucher
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Apples and Oranges . IAEA has inspected the Iranian locations for compliance. They exist. They had help from NK and maybe Pakistan. None of that is speculation like Iraq.
You’re not God. Iran has the Gid given right to self defense against their attackers.
You need to man up and fight the traitors in your own country instead of worrying about others across the ocean
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:40 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:There's no way we send the Army and Marines into the meat grinder of mountain warfare in Iran.
Boots on the ground by late August.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:59 pm to BobBoucher
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not? Surly you are not this stupid?
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:59 pm to Sharlo
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It’s the lesson we refuse to learn about the Middle East. Every time we intervene and topple a regime, something worse emerges.
"Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came’; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order. Then it goes and takes along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first." - Matthew 12:43
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:50 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Iranian officers have contacted the crown prince of Iran and pledged their loyalty to him in helping to form a tarnsitional government.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:55 am to John Barron
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Sky News: Israel’s Concern is the Collapse of the Iranian State not just the Regime
Right or wrong, fair or unfair..... this demonstrates that the people of a country are responsible for thier government. The situation in Gaza is same.
I understand that a rebellion or revolution might be painful, bloody, and costly, but eventually a country ruled by lunatics will have to answer for its government's actions.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:57 am to lake chuck fan
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Right or wrong, fair or unfair..... this demonstrates that the people of a country are responsible for thier government. The situation in Gaza is same.
I understand that a rebellion or revolution might be painful, bloody, and costly, but eventually a country ruled by lunatics will have to answer for its government's actions.
Like Iraq? Afghanistan? Libya?
The problem is that we've seen this before and heard these arguments before, and while the initial scenario was bad, we have learned the destabilization is worse
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:03 am to John Barron
quote:If only there was something Iranians could do about it.
“Many Iranians are now worried that Israel’s plan is the Syriafication of Iran”
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:07 am to NC_Tigah
In that region, since the revolution in 1979, what civilian uprisings were successful other than ISIS?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:43 am to IAmNERD
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Didn't some Iranian proxy kill 3, and injure 40 US service members in Jordan in January '24?
I said this in another thread, but calculate the losses (lives and monetarily and anything else) and then put them up against the potential for a long slog US involvement in Iran. I'm open to various answers there, but I think any US involvement in post-regime change chaos (prolonged or not) would have the very legitimate potential to outweigh the recent impacts (and likely near-future threats) of Iranian proxies on US interests.
Look, part of this is devil's advocate stuff. I personally think it's more likely than not that Iran can endure regime change without prolonged violent chaos and another theocratic/pro-terrorist regime taking charge - but I'm not going to pretend that's a certainty. American hubris in the MENA is the rule, not the exception. Hence my objection to blanket/definitive statements about being sure that what comes next can't be worse.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:When was the last time a civilian uprising enjoyed de facto air superiority, in that region or anywhere else?
In that region, since the revolution in 1979, what civilian uprisings were successful other than ISIS?
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