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re: Six arrested in R.I. on charges of child sex trafficking after sting operation
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:42 am to Madking
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:42 am to Madking
Moral panics are always characterized by the exaggeration and distortion of some social issue that is to some extent real, but for which media and state actors can capitalize. There's a symbiotic relationship where officials disseminate their narratives and the media secures a large audience and advertisers. The media is desperate for clicks and this stuff is gold.
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:43 am to Madking
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The opposite is happening here so how is it the same or even more effective?
It's like terrorism, where any and everyone is a (potential) threat.
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The very fact that you’re claiming it’s local law enforcement and not federal like the war on drugs
Are you under the misconception that it was not both?
The War on Drugs was at all levels of government, from the President to the IC, all the way down to podunk LEOs across the country.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 9:44 am
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:45 am to TigerDoc
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The media is desperate for clicks and this stuff is gold.
Again, nobody has adequately explained why this news outlet titled their story "trafficking" when no trafficking was involved. Nothing even close to trafficking occurred. Hell, there wasn't even any actual victim involved to traffic anywhere.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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Again, nobody has adequately explained why this news outlet titled their story "trafficking" when no trafficking was involved. Nothing even close to trafficking occurred. Hell, there wasn't even any actual victim involved to traffic anywhere.
How do you know? The article mentioned these people were using online platforms to solicit children for sex. Do you think there's a bunch of minors on these websites soliciting themselves?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Again this goes around the public aspect and connecting it to the operational side. Yes all those things happened with the cartels, they aren’t happening here. To give your theory weight you have to connect your government suspicions to the public awareness in order for the plot to be real. You're falling short there. Like I said I find your theory interesting but incomplete.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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You think sex trafficking and human trafficking is a “right-wing conspiracy theory”
No I don't. That is a lie.
I've literally never said that.
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You’ve said that here many times.
Not at all. Again, you're relying on outright lies
I said both existed on this forum as recently as....this morning
Every post you comment on, your initial comment is always to point out or imply the OP is right-wing conspiracy theory/theorist. That's almost exclusively what you do on here.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Right. It's just sensationalism. Papers and LEO's in a hype cycle.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
For someone who’s always accusing the board of being “conspiracy theorists”, you sure have concocted a wild conspiracy theory here.
Has it ever occurred to you that law enforcement’s focus on human/sex trafficking and child exploitation is to…actually stop human/sex trafficking and child exploitation?
Not everything is a conspiracy by sheriff Billy Bob to seize control of your local parish.
Has it ever occurred to you that law enforcement’s focus on human/sex trafficking and child exploitation is to…actually stop human/sex trafficking and child exploitation?
Not everything is a conspiracy by sheriff Billy Bob to seize control of your local parish.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:56 am to MightyYat
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How do you know? The article mentioned these people were using online platforms to solicit children for sex.
And there were no children to traffic
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Do you think there's a bunch of minors on these websites soliciting themselves?
That wasn't the target of the scheme and none of the targets were associated with that. It's in the article.
These are very common schemes with entrapping pedophiles and they're good to get headlines with zero risks to any actual child. However they do not involve human trafficking in any way shape or form by design
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:58 am to TigerDoc
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Right. It's just sensationalism. Papers and LEO's in a hype cycle.
The biggest threat of sexual abuse to children is family. The second biggest threat of sexual abuse to children is close family friends.
I would have to look it up but I believe the last time I looked this up the trafficking data mimics this paradigm .
If we want to get serious about stopping child sexual abuse we need to focus on the family
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Traffickers primarily target young women close to legal age. I would bet most street walkers and escorts are trafficked these days.
This kind of hits the point. The term "trafficking" now refers to all prostitution. "Pimps" are now "Traffickers." And for minors the perpetrators are generally the same as they have always been, molesting family members. So really what we have is the same age-old problem with the same age-old perpetrators, just with a new label.
(The sick fricks still need to be put away, just as they always have.)
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:00 am to TBoy
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, just with a new label.
It is what it is. Its fricking silly to argue the semantics.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:00 am to LegalEazyE
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or imply the OP is right-wing conspiracy theory/theorist.
That has become his main Shtick.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:01 am to thebigmuffaletta
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For someone who’s always accusing the board of being “conspiracy theorists”, you sure have concocted a wild conspiracy theory here.
Conspiracies do exist and I've never denied that they exist. However bad conspiracies are illogical and without evidence and then you get into Boomer conspiracies which are fantastical
I have professed my love for conspiracy theories for decades on this message board and I've also been clear about my hatred of Boomer conspiracies and how they've destroyed the space almost entirely by finding the internet in 2020
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro
Any medical or mental health provider who takes care of traumatized people is going to tell you the same thing.
But that's just not hypeable in law-enforcement and mass media terms - can you imagine a hype campaign on the dangers of step-dads? They're way more dangerous in real-world terms than traffickers, but who will profit off pumping it up?
But that's just not hypeable in law-enforcement and mass media terms - can you imagine a hype campaign on the dangers of step-dads? They're way more dangerous in real-world terms than traffickers, but who will profit off pumping it up?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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Conspiracies do exist
I would say the left wings desire to obfuscate trafficking plays a huge part if the way you look at these issues.
You heard its a conspiracy, you go on warpath, you find out its not really a conspiracy, you continue your warpath.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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Boomer conspiracies
Like thinking sheriff Billy Bob is going after criminals because it’s a grand conspiracy to seize control?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It is what it is. Its fricking silly to argue the semantics.
I don't disagree with you at all. As best I can gather from the other dude's position in this thread is that the use of the term "sex trafficker" directs attention to "others," some group outside of our society, as the bogeyman perpetrator, when in fact the perpetrators are the same perpetrators as before, all within our own communities.
If you are looking for a Mexican cartel, you will overlook uncle Ernie. If you are looking for a foreign gang, you will overlook the youth minister. Looking outside for some sensational new shadowy international kidnapping organization will direct your attention away from the actual problem of child sexual abuse that is actually happening within our communities and must be addressed.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:09 am to TBoy
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If you are looking for a Mexican cartel, you will overlook uncle Ernie. If you are looking for a foreign gang, you will overlook the youth minister. Looking outside for some sensational new shadowy international kidnapping organization will direct your attention away from the actual problem of child sexual abuse that is actually happening within our communities and must be addressed.
The fact that these are local arrests slices through your theory.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:09 am to thebigmuffaletta
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Like thinking sheriff Billy Bob is going after criminals because it’s a grand conspiracy to seize control?
No it's to maintain his budget and Federal money flowing. If you don't have a boogeyman to fight then you're going to have to reduce your spending, which means job loss and less high-tech goodies.
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