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re: Six arrested in R.I. on charges of child sex trafficking after sting operation

Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:17 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:17 am to
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So municipal and state police forces are “consolidating power” by recouping money lost on soft crime policies by having the media report on trafficking?

They are actively re-defining what "trafficking is".

Again, just ask yourself why this article (and OP) used the word "trafficking" when no trafficking occurred.

Where was the trafficking in this story?
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:21 am to
I’m not attacking your theory, I think it’s interesting. I don’t trust government at all so I’m willing to entertain the theory but I don’t see how it negates the fact that this stuff is going on in a big way?
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:21 am to
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You downplaying child sex trafficking for your own selfish reasons is the real issue. Either everyone on this board is lying about your position, or maybe, your the one who can’t articulate your position without coming across as downplaying child sex trafficking


He talks down to people because he's an arrogant lawyer who thinks he's smarter than everyone else. Like most in his profession, he views himself as a deity and anyone who is not a lawyer is beneath him.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:22 am to
I think he's saying the media has its own incentives for hyping it as a moral panic as they have with the war on drugs.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:23 am to
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What's not strangest how you rely on lies as the backbone of your "argument"


This isn't personal but since you value honesty and have thick skin, I'm just going to say it. People are interwebs punishing you for your lazy, hot-take opinions. You have reached auto-downvote status where people don't even read your posts before downvoting because you are boorish and repetitive and self-congratulatory and hopelessly autistic, and people just don't take you seriously like they once did.

Imma upvote you though, because you try.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:23 am to
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I think he's saying the media has its own incentives for hyping it as a moral panic as they have with the war on drugs.

Or they're at least influenced by it in similar ways. Media doesn't typically waste an opportunity to promote fear. If it bleeds, it leads.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:24 am to
I can see that in theory but in principal I’ve never known the media to expose something that disproportionately hurts the left.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:25 am to
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but I don’t see how it negates the fact that this stuff is going on in a big way?


Well it would seem to be going on in a much bigger way if you expand the definition to include a lot more behaviors, right?

Again, why did the article (and OP) use the term trafficking when no trafficking was involved int his story (by your own definition, no less)? Why the colossal frickup on something so simple?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:25 am to
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and people just don't take you seriously like they once did.

I can't help brain rot or the expansion of idiots on this board.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:26 am to
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but in principal I’ve never known the media to expose something that disproportionately hurts the left.

See now you're making it partisan.

The media will push whatever narrative they can to induce fear.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:26 am to
the media's hype about the war on drugs was in large part a reaction against rising drug culture which was promoted by the left.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:27 am to
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Well it would seem to be going on in a much bigger way if you expand the definition to include a lot more behaviors, right?


Entrapped labor or services, including sex.

This is all so very simple for a muti page argument.

This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 9:29 am
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:28 am to
Ok but you altered what I said. I didn’t say it’s now going on in a much bigger way. That would suggest that I think this is a recent trend. It’s being exposed more and more high profile situations are being exposed but there are a lot of factors that could be resulting in this outside of media coverage.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:29 am to
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the media's hype about the war on drugs was in large part a reaction against rising drug culture which was promoted by the left.


Exactly.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:30 am to
I won’t go that far with you. The media won’t hurt big money leftists and give the right a hammer just to induce fear. If that was the case the left wing media would be pushing invasion at the boarder.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:32 am to
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Ok but you altered what I said. I didn’t say it’s now going on in a much bigger way. T

If you expand what "sex trafficking" means, you're going to include more behaviors, so there will naturally be more "sex trafficking"

Normal prostitution among adults was not "sex trafficking" until very recently. Now, every time there is a bust, it's a "sex trafficking bust".

Read this story for a recent example of how this hypervigilance ensures innocent people who aren't even involved in prostitution

Look no further than this thread for how this expanded use of "sex trafficking" implicates non-trafficking scenarios and amplifies the perceived threat.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 9:34 am
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:34 am to
It’s a good parallel but there are known, aspects of the War on Drugs that we don’t have here. Mainly who the perpetrators were and just about everything in how they operated. There’s no face to this issue at least yet.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:35 am to
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Mainly who the perpetrators were and just about everything in how they operated. There’s no face to this issue at least yet.


Imagine you're the FBI. Which is better for you: a directed target or a nameless, faceless enemy that can be anyone, including THAT GUY RIGHT NEXT TO YOU!!!!!
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:36 am to
You’re arguing semantics here and conflating issues. You have to separate your theory from public awareness.
Posted by Madking
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47941 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:40 am to
That’s speculation, cmon now. This is how you lose the thread, we knew who Pablo, Cali and the cartels were because they were killing politicians and bombing cities. That made it easy for the government to pervert the operation into the larger thing you’re talking about. The opposite is happening here so how is it the same or even more effective? The very fact that you’re claiming it’s local law enforcement and not federal like the war on drugs shows it doesn’t have that kind of steam behind it.
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