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re: Six arrested in R.I. on charges of child sex trafficking after sting operation

Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:19 am to
Posted by Motownsix
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:19 am to
Baw do you even Q?
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:19 am to
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The child does not exist. No actual victim existed. It was LEO communicating via the chat.

How can a person who does not exist be trafficked?


Why were they even arrested then if no victim existed?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:20 am to
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Why were they even arrested then if no victim existed?

THAT is a spicy meatball that's beyond the capabilities of the Political Talk forum in 2024.

It's a good question, however.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
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24460 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:22 am to
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THAT is a spicy meatball that's beyond the capabilities of the Political Talk forum in 2024.

It's a good question, however.


Let's get into it. Should we not have online stings to arrest these assholes?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:22 am to
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Did I make any partisan comments?


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Hell, I even called them "Boomer conspiracy theories", which isn't partisan.


Again, semantics. You know exactly what you're doing here. "Boomer" is a term commonly associated with older white people (and yes, before you try and talk down to me again, I know that isn't technically what it means). Older white people are commonly associated with being right wing (again, yes, I'm aware that an old white man is president and is very far left).

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Why are YOU associating international cabals of elites engaging in blood sacrifice and rape of children with partisanship?


I have never once commented on this "international cabal of elites" stuff. I did not participate in the Q thread. Nice try.

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I don't


Most of your posts on this board are playing semantics games in an attempt to dunk on Republican voters. Why someone who claims not to be a leftist gets their rocks off doing this is beyond me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:24 am to
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Should we not have online stings to arrest these assholes?

If a person believes in the concept of Entrapment, I don't see how that person can logically see these operations as legal/Constitutional, no matter how effective they may be in getting pedos to expose themselves (no pun intended)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:26 am to
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"Boomer" is a term commonly associated with older white people

I'm not arguing that

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Older white people are commonly associated with being right wing

THAT is a leap in logic

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I have never once commented on this "international cabal of elites" stuff.

Well you're replying in a thread and specific discussion trying to equate me saying THAT doesn't exist with the fact that sex trafficking of minors does not exist.

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Most of your posts on this board are playing semantics games in an attempt to dunk on Republican voters.

-Republican
+dumb

Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:26 am to
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If a person believes in the concept of Entrapment, I don't see how that person can logically see these operations as legal/Constitutional, no matter how effective they may be in getting pedos to expose themselves (no pun intended)



I think that's because we have collectively, as a society, decided to pull away all red tape when it comes to raping children. Crazy concept. I know.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:31 am to
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I think that's because we have collectively, as a society, decided to pull away all red tape when it comes to raping children


"Red tape" = "our rights"

Think about what you said in the context of my overall point. You're literally arguing my point.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47947 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:33 am to
So scope and definitions change as the acts change. For example cereal killers existed but weren’t recorded until the latter half of the century so definition and identification of that type of crime changed. What changed as far as the pros business? Like Roger said economic opportunities but I’d also add a lot more immigrant crime organization which is where the trafficking becomes more prevalent.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 11:34 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:36 am to
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So scope and definitions change as the acts change

How has the act changed?

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What changed as far as the pros business? Like Roger said economic opportunities but I’d also add a lot more immigrant crime organization which is where the trafficking becomes more prevalent.

Like the Italians in the early 20th century? Who ran prostitution in NY, NJ, Nola, etc?

Asian massage parlor memes have existed as long as I've been alive, and the meme existed as far back as the mid-19th century during the Railroad/Western expansion, when Chinese immigrants flooded the West Coast.

None of this is new.

*ETA: also like I said, It's almost a guarantee the peak of this stuff was in the mid-80s to mid-90s, like all other social pathologies (violent crime, teen pregnancy, abortions, etc.). That was the worst time in American history in terms of social pathology and immorality. Pretty much everything peaked then.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 11:41 am
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:43 am to
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If a person believes in the concept of Entrapment, I don't see how that person can logically see these operations as legal/Constitutional, no matter how effective they may be in getting pedos to expose themselves (no pun intended)


Yes, we should absolutely let pedophiles run wild in our society because some pie in the sky ‘libertarian’ types think entrapment should be illegal. This is essentially what you’re arguing here.

This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 11:44 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:45 am to
No, not like that. Why are you playing dumb when just a few posts ago you agreed with the changes we’ve outlined?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:46 am to
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Yes, we should absolutely let pedophiles run wild in our society because some pie in the sky ‘libertarian’ types think entrapment should be illegal.

It's only our rights and the Constitution.

What other rights do you want others to give up?

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This is essentially what you’re arguing here.

You do know we have all sorts of rights in this realm, correct? Meant to make investigation and prosecution of actual crimes more difficult.

Look you want to erode our rights for a sense of safety. I get it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:47 am to
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Why are you playing dumb

I'm not. I asked you for specifics

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How has the act changed?


Twice. You've given no details of what you're talking about either time.

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when just a few posts ago you agreed with the changes we’ve outlined

I agreed that they changed the name to elicit a response.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:53 am to
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Like Roger said economic opportunities but I’d also add a lot more immigrant crime organization which is where the trafficking becomes more prevalent.


Watch this. This poor girl has been destroyed. Her "pimps" follow her with apps.

Grace Spoonamore.

She mentions the Mexican connections.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12971 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:56 am to
You don’t have a right to not be charged with a crime because your dumbass fell for a sting operation wherein you believed the person you were talking to was a child you thought you can frick.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47947 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:57 am to
And you were given specifics and no you also agreed that the criminal business changed. Your problem is you can’t identify whether the law enforcement response is inherent because of the changing crime it’s combatting or as your theory states that it’s a scheme. Like I said your theory is interesting you just haven’t done enough to disprove alternate reasoning.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:59 am to
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And you were given specifics

Where?

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you also agreed that the criminal business changed.

Where?

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47947 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:06 pm to
I’m not reposting things you and I just posted simply because you wanna be hard headed. Your problem is that you speak in absolutes with very little to support your assertions.
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