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re: SIAP: Trans killer blamed his mom and weed.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:43 am to loogaroo
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:43 am to loogaroo
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”Gender and weed fricked up my head,” he claimed. “I wish I never tried experimenting with either.”
I’ve never liked the use of the work “experimenting” in this context. He wasn’t conducting “experiments.” He didn’t keep notes and refine hypotheses and control for variables. No one “experiments” with weed.
The dude was a compulsive psychotic who smoked dope, wanted to wear dresses (until he didn’t want to), and went on a murder rampage at a school. So now he blames his mother? Give me a break.
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Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:44 am to Vacherie Saint
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Slotard told us that his parents couldn’t have possibly known he was crazy
What in this OP discusses the underlying psychosis?
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:45 am to HagaDaga
quote:And you're ignorant for believing it can. I've smoked 'today's weed' plenty, and I've never even heard of someone doing anything close to what this psycho troon did.
you are a fool if you don't think today's weed can't f up a kids brain enough
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:46 am to burger bearcat
Upvoted. This is real.
"The divorce courts have destroyed an entire generation of kids. Even if the parents stay together, men know the divorce option is always floating over their head keeping them weak and timid in being able to run their household the way it needs to be ran.
Women do not care about their family in the way men do. Men are thinking about long term implications in how a divorce or various other family issues can be detrimental to adolescents in their formative years.
Most women simply don’t consider this, and are more invested in short term nurturing and emotional/comfort needs.
Something as simple as a mom letting a toddler continue to use a pacifier. A real Dad/man knows once the kid is past 2 the pacifier needs to go. And will throw it in the trash can. Even if the Mom still wants the child to have it because she is more invested in short term nurturing, where the man knows that in order for the child to properly develop into their next stage of life, it needs to go."
"The divorce courts have destroyed an entire generation of kids. Even if the parents stay together, men know the divorce option is always floating over their head keeping them weak and timid in being able to run their household the way it needs to be ran.
Women do not care about their family in the way men do. Men are thinking about long term implications in how a divorce or various other family issues can be detrimental to adolescents in their formative years.
Most women simply don’t consider this, and are more invested in short term nurturing and emotional/comfort needs.
Something as simple as a mom letting a toddler continue to use a pacifier. A real Dad/man knows once the kid is past 2 the pacifier needs to go. And will throw it in the trash can. Even if the Mom still wants the child to have it because she is more invested in short term nurturing, where the man knows that in order for the child to properly develop into their next stage of life, it needs to go."
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:46 am to loogaroo
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“I remember one day, she said something like, ‘In the future you will look back and feel ridiculous about who you feel like you are inside. You will regret this.’
If this is in reference to the trans stuff, this blows up a lot of the theorizing on here about his parents supporting the trans stuff.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:47 am to Vacherie Saint
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Odds are almost 100% he was on psychotropics.
100%? No. Not even close.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:47 am to FATBOY TIGER
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Constant use of alcohol leads to death.
Not a dirty little secret.
What does this have to do with weed? I'm confused why you would deviate like this.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:47 am to tigerfan 64
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He was adamant in dismissing trans /gender as the killers primary motivation for his rampage and blaming only his mental health.
As it turns out, trans /gender was the primary motivation for his killing spree.
This does not establish your conclusion. At all.
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Another big "L" for the small "l" liberal-a-tarian.
Only with faulty logic you used
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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If this is in reference to the trans stuff, this blows up a lot of the theorizing on here about his parents supporting the trans stuff
Both parents affirmed his mistaken identity.
They may not have liked it, but they definitely supported it.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:48 am to loogaroo
Trannies have a crazy high suicide rate. Hard to get that square peg into that round hole. Most are more than a bit loony to start with and transitioning only makes it worse.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:49 am to blueboy
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And you're ignorant for believing it can. I've smoked 'today's weed' plenty, and I've never even heard of someone doing anything close to what this psycho troon did.
Well his psychosis started when he was around 10, and I don't think he was smoking weed.
But, generally, smoking weed in adolescence, especially for males, has been found to be linked to a higher chance of schitzophrenia.
Harvard: Teens who smoke pot at risk for later schizophrenia, psychosis
Probably not applicable in this case, but there is some stuff there, for general discussion purposes.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:51 am to blueboy
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And you're ignorant for believing it can. I've smoked 'today's weed' plenty, and I've never even heard of someone doing anything close to what this psycho troon did.
Did you start smoking it in your teens? Are you a stoner kid the last 10yrs?
I've smoked plenty too, but only a idiotic fool can't at least acknowledge that today's weed can frick up and developing brain.
But not surprised when stoners come out hot, unable to see it themselves. Stoner brains trying to debate the greatness of weed is only an argument won in their own heads.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:52 am to blueboy
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And you're ignorant for believing it can.
I;ve used it daily for 6 years, it can lead to depersonalization and in some cases, worse in young folks.
Depersonalization sucks big time. Particularly can be damaging in younger folks who struggle with identity
This post was edited on 8/30/25 at 9:53 am
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:53 am to HagaDaga
This is the dumbest take yet. The Constitution is written on paper made from marijuana. A majority of the founding fathers used marijuana. There was prohibition for a reason. I dont do either but I can say that being around people that use marijuana isn't even remotely difficult as dealing with drunks. Drunks are annoying as frick and most of the time do not remember the arse they made of themselves. Marijuana users are not that.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:55 am to MikkUGA
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Blaming weed is bs. In a country full of alcoholics that drink to the point of blackout they need to stop attacking weed, its just dumb.
If he was an alcoholic, we could find where to place that in the matrix of blame. He wasn’t. He was a pothead.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
You can always tell the type of stoner you are speaking with when they get defensive, and act like they are arguing with someone who has never smoked weed.
They act like children fighting when told to go to bed.
They act like children fighting when told to go to bed.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
As per the norm, when you are wrong, you still think you are right.
You specifically stated transgenderism was not responsible for the killers actions. The killer said it was.
I guess you would know his motivations more than he would.
There is no logic to debate.
You specifically stated transgenderism was not responsible for the killers actions. The killer said it was.
I guess you would know his motivations more than he would.
There is no logic to debate.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
I think you two are talking about 2 different things. Being addicted to being high because it’s an escape from your unbearable reality and having that ruin your life is not the same as being chemically addicted to weed and suffering side affects.
If Westman was escaping his reality by getting high everyday, than by not confronting his issues, he likely depersonalized and distanced himself from others similarly, making him feel more alone.
If Westman was escaping his reality by getting high everyday, than by not confronting his issues, he likely depersonalized and distanced himself from others similarly, making him feel more alone.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:59 am to HagaDaga
There are some tradeoffs to weed, particularly in younger folks who use daily.
There are some benefits to it as well but I dont know why people think there are zero negative effects, there obviously are.
There are some benefits to it as well but I dont know why people think there are zero negative effects, there obviously are.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:00 am to tigerfan 64
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As per the norm, when you are wrong,
You've not shown this, specifically the "primary" assertion.
I mean, like, at all.
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You specifically stated transgenderism was not responsible for the killers actions.
I never ever said this, just to be clear.
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The killer said it was.
Now you're pivoting from the "primary" language.
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I guess you would know his motivations more than he would.
I'm only going on what he himself wrote:
This obsession (to the point of his self identity) predated the trans stuff by almost a decade.
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