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re: Should race matter to Christians?
Posted on 9/20/26 at 3:41 pm to Azkiger
Posted on 9/20/26 at 3:41 pm to Azkiger
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Yes, go back and re-read the report.
You're trying to conflate my use of 2.1 (for the replacement rate) with your use of 2.1 (fertility rates from the past that are irrelevant now)
You need to go back and re-read. You're confused like usual.
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And what % will they be at when its all said and done (all said and done = all the women currently accounted for are past their childbearing years)?
You keep trying to separate populations already accounted for in the 2.1 that matters (not the fertility rates from 50+ years ago that are irrelevant). That's illogical and/or dishonest.
This simple concept has now been explained to you at least 5 times by now
Posted on 9/20/26 at 3:43 pm to RidiculousHype
Old Testament = We all descend from Adam & Eve
New Testament = Love one another as you love yourself
If Jesus Christ is the root of Christianity, seems the path is simple and direct. If you can not follow his simple words, how can you call yourself Christian?
Posted on 9/20/26 at 3:45 pm to Cheese Grits
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If Jesus Christ is the root of Christianity, seems the path is simple and direct. If you can not follow his simple words, how can you call yourself Christian?
I'm curious what % of answers will be from sources who aren't Jesus
Posted on 9/20/26 at 3:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
100%
He didn’t have a Twitter account.
He didn’t have a Twitter account.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 9/20/26 at 4:03 pm to RidiculousHype
The most ridiculous part about all of this is there’s nothing not about 20 in this photo. They’re acting like it’s an entire section.
In 2000 in MS, there was a snug group of south Americans that would lead the “Ole’ Ole’ Ole’” chant at football games.
There’s nothing new under the sun.
In 2000 in MS, there was a snug group of south Americans that would lead the “Ole’ Ole’ Ole’” chant at football games.
There’s nothing new under the sun.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 4:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
Our current birthrate is 1.6.
If Conservatives are at 1.4 and liberals are at 1.09 how are we getting to 1.6?
Hrm, its almost like time exists and many of the women who were referenced in that survey have yet to have children.
Since our replacement rate is 1.6, conservative women have to be a good bit higher than that to offset liberal lower birth rates. Conservative women are probably closer to 2.0.
If Conservatives are at 1.4 and liberals are at 1.09 how are we getting to 1.6?
Hrm, its almost like time exists and many of the women who were referenced in that survey have yet to have children.
Since our replacement rate is 1.6, conservative women have to be a good bit higher than that to offset liberal lower birth rates. Conservative women are probably closer to 2.0.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 9/20/26 at 4:54 pm to Azkiger
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Our current birthrate is 1.6.
If Conservatives are at 1.4 and liberals are at 1.09 how are we getting to 1.6?
You're using a bad source, is the best explanation.
It's a survey and not based on the totality of the data
And it clearly under-represents minority birth rates
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
I saw you're edit. I keep having to tell you those stats weren't based on race. Seems it finally sunk into your thick head.
Also,
youre pathetic...
"Show me the stats!"
"Noooo! Not those stats!"
You had no issue claiming conservative women were reproducing at 1.4, but now you don't like those stats.
No way you're a lawyer. Unless you're DEI.
Also,
youre pathetic... "Show me the stats!"
"Noooo! Not those stats!"
You had no issue claiming conservative women were reproducing at 1.4, but now you don't like those stats.
No way you're a lawyer. Unless you're DEI.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Bottom line, conservatives have a higher birth rate. If it's currently 1.6, conservative are higher. Probably around 2.0.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:08 pm to Azkiger
quote:
"Show me the stats!"
"Noooo! Not those stats!"
You are the one who criticized your own data.
You just asked me to explain why it didn't make sense to you.
quote:
You had no issue claiming conservative women were reproducing at 1.4,
I tried to make note that I was using your data multiple times. I knew you'd end up here.
I didn't do it every time, but I did it several times. You can go look it up.
quote:
No way you're a lawyer. Unless you're DEI.
I would never use a survey to counter actual data and that's why I'm a good lawyer
Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:10 pm to Azkiger
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Bottom line, conservatives have a higher birth rate. I
Per your data, it's below replacement level
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If it's currently 1.6, conservative are higher. Probably around 2.0.
You have nothing to back this "2.0' claim up. You're both criticizing your own data, waiving a white flag, and making shite up all in one
Also, 2.0 would still be below the replacement level
Posted on 9/20/26 at 6:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
There were also over 25 million Latin immigrants over that period, many of them illegal and all of them having lots of kids. I think that's the nuance missing.
As far as replacement rate, Latinos are almost flat now too. The US is going to stop growing absent immigration. I'm not saying that's good or bad (ok it's bad), but it's a fact.
But with Trump's pause we have an opportunity to be selective regarding immigration. Admit those that are going to benefit the US. People that are smart, not just hard working.
As far as replacement rate, Latinos are almost flat now too. The US is going to stop growing absent immigration. I'm not saying that's good or bad (ok it's bad), but it's a fact.
But with Trump's pause we have an opportunity to be selective regarding immigration. Admit those that are going to benefit the US. People that are smart, not just hard working.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 6:32 pm to Easy
Someone posted that certain preachers preach politics and hate for other races,unfortunately they are leading their congregations to perdition.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:10 pm to Easy
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There were also over 25 million Latin immigrants over that period, many of them illegal and all of them having lots of kids.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:13 pm to Easy
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As far as replacement rate, Latinos are almost flat now too.
Correct. It's a SES/SOL stat, and the Latino SES/SOL is increasing, so birthrate will decline.
This has nothing to do with culture, religion, race, etc. It's about SES and SOL.
It's why Indians and Muslims will never occupy a substantial % of our population, and why these projections about white people losing population share are typically wrong (they don't model in the decline in Latinos).
The shift to race is gross, too. However, since Latinos are Western culture, the nativists can't hide behind that designation with them. All that's left is race.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:15 pm to RidiculousHype
Race matters to everyone, but not always the same reasons.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You are the one who criticized your own data.
You were the one who though the 1.4 stat was in reference to white women. And this is after I corrected you repeatedly. quote:
I would never use a survey to counter actual data
You never presented anything but your own unintelligent opinion.
Just say you were too busy derailing other threads and were lazy/multitasking. It's fine. Looking at your post count and how often you derail threads (you even tried to detail this one, saying its not about illegal immigration) I'd believe it.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Per your data, it's below replacement level
Per your misunderstanding of my data. The truth is the data hasn't matured enough to determine what its final state looks like.
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You have nothing to back this "2.0' claim up. You're both criticizing your own data, waiving a white flag, and making shite up all in one
Also, 2.0 would still be below the replacement level
On a scale of 1-10 how pissed are you that I was right and conservatives are head and shoulders out-reproducing liberals?
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Why wouldn't I defend my point?
I didn't think you were actually going to try to defend your point.
Thank you for confirming.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:55 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:Show me a quote where I have ever said that sin doesn't matter.
You argue on here all the time sin doesn’t matter because Jesus died for your sins.
quote:Now this I've said, but that's not the same as "sin doesn't matter". All sin deserves damnation, including the sin Christians (those trusting in Jesus) commit. The difference is true Christians are repentant and come to God in humility, seeking His forgiveness. They then go on to pursue obedience, even if they fall short.
He paid the price so you don’t have to go to hell and be tortured for eternity.
Sin does matter, as it is an offense against a holy God. It's why it took the Son of God to pay the price of sin, because only His life is of infinite worth as the God-man.
quote:If you think all you need to do to be saved is state some sort of magical incantation or give a false profession of faith, then you are mistaken.
I think that is a shitty theology, because it says you can be a shitty person as long as you believe in Jesus being your substitutionary atonement sacrifice.
True faith comes with true contrition and repentance for sin. Someone who has done a lot of bad stuff in their life can actually turn away from it with tears of sorrow and be forgiven. It's actually a hopeful message: no matter what you've done in your past, there is hope for you in Jesus Christ. No one is too far gone.
However, that doesn't mean that you can keep doing whatever you want to do without consequence.
quote:I never tire of your cogent reasoning. It puts everyone to shame. Have you considered putting on a seminar on how to utilize reason, and not ad hominem attacks, to persuade people? I'm sure others could learn a thing or two about how to show why atheism is such a reasonable belief system. You are quite the spokesperson for it
Well that’s another example of why you are a fricking retard.
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