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re: Should race matter to Christians?

Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:36 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:36 am to
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Okay, yet we still see a demographic collapse, not stability.

Did you already forget the topic of conversation?


Uh...you left out the rest of my post...why?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:37 am to
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Your topic is to own the libs by blaming them for everything even when it accomplishes nothing.


His argument is to say the libs made our lives better

It's weird
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:39 am to
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1.4 is 66.7% of the lowest replacement rate (2.1)


And it includes women still in high school.

The point of the 1.4 to 1.09 was to highlight the differences between reproduction differences between conservatives and liberals. A point you specifically asked me to prove.

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It's not 1975-1979

You do realize you should be understanding conservatives were at the lowest acceptable replacement rate (below, to some) 45-50 years ago, right?


It's the only data set we have that accounts for total births per woman.

And this proves my point. Conservative women are at least carrying the load. They are at replacement rate.

Yet we're still seeing demographical collapse.

Hence my comment, the collapse can be laid at the feet of liberals.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:41 am to
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Uh...you left out the rest of my post...why?


Oh frick off. I've repeatedly mentioned mass illegal immigration as one of the main causes of the white population collapse and you haven't even touched it.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:42 am to
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Your topic is to own the libs by blaming them for everything even when it accomplishes nothing.


Conservatives have their own blame to account for.

The 80-55% white pop collapse in the last 2ish generations? Virtually all liberals fault.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:53 am to
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And it includes women still in high school.


So does the 2.1 number

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Conservative women are at least carrying the load. They are at replacement rate.

They are not

They're at 66% of the replacement rate today
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:56 am to
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I've repeatedly mentioned mass illegal immigration as one of the main causes of the white population collapse and you haven't even touched it.

I did address it and explain that I'm trying to stay on topic.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:10 am to
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So does the 2.1 number


The 2.1 number was the birthrate conservative women born between 1975 and 1979...

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They're at 66% of the replacement rate today


And what % will they be at when its all said and done (all said and done = all the women currently accounted for are past their childbearing years)?
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:12 am to
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I did address it...


You dodged it.

"Hur dur, I'd focus on getting these stats right before moving on to those stats" is not addressing it. That's avoiding it.

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and explain that I'm trying to stay on topic


That was on topic. Are you retarded? Read the OP. Read my original response. Mass illegal immigration is the topic.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 10:15 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 11:15 am to
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The 2.1 number was the birthrate conservative women born between 1975 and 1979...

No the 2.1 number is the low end of replacement rate (2.1 - 2.3)

You keep trying to pretend that the total fertility rate and replacement rate don't use the same exact populations. I keep having to explain to you the simple fact that you're being dishonest.

Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 11:15 am to
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You will need to explain what you mean by this. I’m not following you. Christianity teaches that we should obey God and we should obey the civil laws of the land so far as they do not command us to sin.

You argue on here all the time sin doesn’t matter because Jesus died for your sins. He paid the price so you don’t have to go to hell and be tortured for eternity. I think that is a shitty theology, because it says you can be a shitty person as long as you believe in Jesus being your substitutionary atonement sacrifice.

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I actually think we should promote changing the Constitution to clarify that the 1st amendment should be interpreted in light of Jesus Christ being the highest authority over the nation.

Well that’s another example of why you are a fricking retard.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 11:28 am to
It should matter to everyone.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 11:52 am to
“ You argue on here all the time sin doesn’t matter because Jesus died for your sins. He paid the price so you don’t have to go to hell and be tortured for eternity. I think that is a shitty theology, because it says you can be a shitty person as long as you believe in Jesus being your substitutionary atonement sacrifice.”(quote Squirrel “).

“Grace is measured” and each person “will be judged and rewarded according to their works”, Friend. Heaven as individual Souls will experience it, will not be the DEI version where all are equal.

IMO, we’ll all experience Heaven when we leave our body, but “few will go (and remain) therein “. Honest folk will prefer to make our Creator and Savior proud of us by doing the work ourselves. And ultimately, getting to the point where we “enter”, by Grace alone, lest any should boast “.

God did not create Humanity to be worshipped, but for OUR sharing of Live and glory. What would you create children for, their glory or your own?

Lucifer’s assumption that God is narcissistic is a lie. Satan is Projecting God is Love. Period.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Should race matter to Christians?


No. It shouldn't. But...... stereotypes exist for a reason.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 1:18 pm to
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I think that is a shitty theology, because it says you can be a shitty person as long as you believe in Jesus being your substitutionary atonement sacrifice.”(quote Squirrel “).


Sounds like you’re Catholic
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 1:24 pm to
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“Grace is measured” and each person “will be judged and rewarded according to their works”, Friend

That’s fine but that’s not what Foo believes. Foo prioritizes and ignores different scriptures than the ones you prioritize and ignore.

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IMO, we’ll all experience Heaven when we leave our body, but “few will go (and remain) therein “. Honest folk will prefer to make our Creator and Savior proud of us by doing the work ourselves. And ultimately, getting to the point where we “enter”, by Grace alone, lest any should boast “.

Why do you think you’ll go to heaven, assuming you have enough grace to merit an eternal reward rather than punishment? Do you recite the Nicene creed? Do you look forward to the resurrection of the dead? Are the dead in Christ going to rise up to meet the Lord in the air as he is descending from heaven? How will you rise up to meet the descending Lord if you are already in heaven?

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Lucifer’s assumption that God is narcissistic is a lie

Where do you get such an idea? Do you realize Lucifer son of the Dawn is the translation of Helel Ben Shahar - of Canaanite mythology? Helel was the son of the god of the dawn… Helel tried to usurp El Elyon (the king of the God’s… the namesake of IsraEl) and put his own throne on Mount Zaphon but failed his quest and was cast down and punished. The author of Isaiah was comparing the king of Babylon to Helel, in that the king of Babylon was not going to be successful at becoming king of the world. “Lucifer” is in no way connected to the concept of Satan.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 1:31 pm to
American Caucasian Christians are essentially the only true Christians.
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 3:28 pm to
Anybody who doesn’t follow the good book or the 10 commandments isn’t a Christian.Love thy neighbor as thy self is on of them.If you hate anyone you have broken that commandment and no one can get to paradise which sin on their souls.Christs whole ministry was bring all peoples together and respect one another.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
29013 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 3:29 pm to
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No


Yes, go back and re-read the report.

Conservative women were 2.1 births over their reproductive lifetime.

Also, don't forget my question:

You: They're at 66% of the replacement rate today.

Me: And what % will they be at when its all said and done (all said and done = all the women currently accounted for are past their childbearing years)?
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
22297 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 3:30 pm to
We agree

Unfortunately all black churches preach politics and racism above the Gospel.
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