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Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:55 pm to SixthAndBarone
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Oh, and government shouldn’t be involved in any marriage any way
Child custody!
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:55 pm to Narax
To Narax specifically ....
I appreciate your lengthy take down of my post; however, I don't think you said what you think you said.
(I won't comment on the repeated Nazi references, as I thought that calling people Nazi's was something we were leaving for the left to continue to spew).
My post was intended to demonstrate how a fringe/radical minority has co-opted an entire group of people who don't support or believe in their ideology and have successfully convinced a vast majority of the public that there are no ideological differences among that group.
Your post illustrated exactly what I was saying by presuming that my daughter (as a lesbian) has some affirmative obligation to overtly distance herself from this group; otherwise, she can be rightfully categorized as a "supporter" of that group.
Why? Because you too have been brainwashed into believing that every lesbian (in this case), individually, is automatically part of a group that they've never been asked to join, but have instead simply been drafted into? (That's basically what you said ... after your endorsement of "furries".)
I assume you belong to some specific ethnic group and sexual orientation. Do you feel obligated to publicly distance yourself from the fringe elements of that group? As a white heterosexual male, I don't feel obligated to walk around with a t-shirt on that says, "I'm not a Klansman" or "I like women".
But, since you seem to require specifics so that I/she can prove our bona fides to you, within the last week, she learned that a trans person had been assigned to share her 4-person dorm room with her. The school didn't inform her; she reached out to learn about her roommates and discovered it on her own.
She has since contacted the school, and after receiving significant shaming and push-back, was assigned to a different room. She reached out to other students to determine if this has happened to them and she's formed a group to assist those students in getting room changes.
That is probably why this topic has struck a nerve with me. (And before you tell me about my obligations in dealing with her school, trust me, they've heard from me, and they will hear much more from me).
Now, what have you done this week to speak out against trans people besides posting on this message board? Speak up or be part of the problem, right?
I appreciate your lengthy take down of my post; however, I don't think you said what you think you said.
(I won't comment on the repeated Nazi references, as I thought that calling people Nazi's was something we were leaving for the left to continue to spew).
My post was intended to demonstrate how a fringe/radical minority has co-opted an entire group of people who don't support or believe in their ideology and have successfully convinced a vast majority of the public that there are no ideological differences among that group.
Your post illustrated exactly what I was saying by presuming that my daughter (as a lesbian) has some affirmative obligation to overtly distance herself from this group; otherwise, she can be rightfully categorized as a "supporter" of that group.
Why? Because you too have been brainwashed into believing that every lesbian (in this case), individually, is automatically part of a group that they've never been asked to join, but have instead simply been drafted into? (That's basically what you said ... after your endorsement of "furries".)
I assume you belong to some specific ethnic group and sexual orientation. Do you feel obligated to publicly distance yourself from the fringe elements of that group? As a white heterosexual male, I don't feel obligated to walk around with a t-shirt on that says, "I'm not a Klansman" or "I like women".
But, since you seem to require specifics so that I/she can prove our bona fides to you, within the last week, she learned that a trans person had been assigned to share her 4-person dorm room with her. The school didn't inform her; she reached out to learn about her roommates and discovered it on her own.
She has since contacted the school, and after receiving significant shaming and push-back, was assigned to a different room. She reached out to other students to determine if this has happened to them and she's formed a group to assist those students in getting room changes.
That is probably why this topic has struck a nerve with me. (And before you tell me about my obligations in dealing with her school, trust me, they've heard from me, and they will hear much more from me).
Now, what have you done this week to speak out against trans people besides posting on this message board? Speak up or be part of the problem, right?
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:05 pm to wackatimesthree
I feel sorry for you.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:13 pm to LsuNav
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They help continue their orientation by influencing children. The minds of kids are always going to be a target.
More so now than ever.
People think when they say "queer," they mean gay. That's not what the Q means.
"Queer" means a deliberate dismantling of all traditional sexual values and mores. That's why the "Drag Queen Story hours" became a thing. That's why gays in Pride parades would sometimes say the quiet part out loud and let "We're coming for your children" slip. That's why the stripping nude and performing sex acts (some real, some simulated) in Pride parades in front of children has become so common. That's why schools and libraries across the country insist on carrying graphic gay phonographic material for children's consumption.
They don't mean that they are necessarily trying to turn your kids gay. What they mean is that they are trying to destroy any normativity in your children. Heteronormativity, traditional family structure, gender normativity, etc.
And the logical conclusion of that philosophy is the stripping away of the traditional value that children should not have sexual contact with adults.
As someone else posted on another thread, the endgame of all of this is not transgenderism. The endgame is pedophilia. It's the logical conclusion of Queer Theory, and some professors have already written about it as such, though for the moment they remain at the fringe.
It will take a little while to get there, but if you can't see that this whole movement has accelerated with frightening speed, and it all started the hot second the White House got lit up with rainbows, I don't know what to tell you.
And THAT is why the, "Blah blah, consenting adults, blah, blah, doesn't impact me," nonsense is so poorly thought through.
Don't believe me. Look it up. Look up Queer Theory. Start reading the writings and quotes of the Drag Queen Story Hour (that's an actual organization—DSH). See what they say their purpose is.
It's just like Hamas. They'll tell you what their goal is. You just have to be willing to believe them.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:15 pm to Auburn80
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I feel sorry for you.
No, you don't.
You feel sorry for yourself because you have a poorly thought out, typical, milquetoast "moderate" take on this because you think that's the "reasonable," "non-extremist" thing to think yet you can't come close to logically defending it.
That ought to tell you something about it, but it won't. You didn't come to that conclusion through any rigorous logical thought. You're not going to start applying it now.
The problem is that you think "being reasonable," means not thinking about something very deeply and just trying to split the difference between "the extremes." As long as you avoid either extreme, your conclusion must be reasonable.
But what "being reasonable" actually means is consulting reason/logic. You don't like that realization.
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:19 pm to ctiger69
They certainly should not be allowed to adopt children, married or not.
All they do is prove that gays are conditioned into homosexuality.
All they do is prove that gays are conditioned into homosexuality.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:25 pm to Scott68
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My post was intended to demonstrate how a fringe/radical minority has co-opted an entire group of people who don't support or believe in their ideology and have successfully convinced a vast majority of the public that there are no ideological differences among that group.
Soo the people of Gaza didnt support Hamas?
This is garbage, if you are against something speak out.
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First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
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Your post illustrated exactly what I was saying by presuming that my daughter (as a lesbian) has some affirmative obligation to overtly distance herself from this group; otherwise, she can be rightfully categorized as a "supporter" of that group
In life we can choose where to be counted.
Don't expect me to validate your enabling of her.
You want to act like you have no influence and neither does she.
That's garbage you cant say you are against something but never speak about it.
Then you arent actually against it, you are condoning it like you condone your daughter's lifestyle?
We had decades of left wing I'm personally against abortion but I'll support it.
Are you personally encouraging your daughter's homosexual lifestyle? You seem to be, you can't pretend to be against something in a vague way that never expresses itself.
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Why? Because you too have been brainwashed into believing that every lesbian (in this case), individually, is automatically part of a group that they've never been asked to join, but have instead simply been drafted into? (That's basically what you said ... after your endorsement of "furries".)
Yes as I dont see their direct lifestyle as wrong, I condone their lifestyle. Its not for me, but
I've spoken out on every topic that has come up.
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I assume you belong to some specific ethnic group and sexual orientation. Do you feel obligated to publicly distance yourself from the fringe elements of that group? As a white heterosexual male, I don't feel obligated to walk around with a t-shirt on that says, "I'm not a Klansman" or "I like women".
Yes I speak up on what I support and do not support. I do it here and everywhere else.
I debate in support of what I believe in.
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She has since contacted the school, and after receiving significant shaming and push-back, was assigned to a different room. She reached out to other students to determine if this has happened to them and she's formed a group to assist those students in getting room changes.
So she's against it when it affects her, but other women arent her problem.
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That is probably why this topic has struck a nerve with me. (And before you tell me about my obligations in dealing with her school, trust me, they've heard from me, and they will hear much more from me).
No it struck a nerve with you because you know not speaking up is wrong.
But you dont like being wrong.
So you are going to try to convince yourself that you are fine and so is she.
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Now, what have you done this week to speak out against trans people besides posting on this message board? Speak up or be part of the problem, right?
This week?
Is it going to make you feel better if I haven't done anything this week?
You'd be shocked how much parents have to fight the LGBT agenda at schools.
But oh wait you support it.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:29 pm to Narax
Imagine if when one side lost their mind the other side simply met it with making the tent large and welcoming - instead of trying to run back policy like gay marriage.
Carve out mental health as a hot button, and accept the influx of support on a lot of issues and years of majorities within representation
Carve out mental health as a hot button, and accept the influx of support on a lot of issues and years of majorities within representation
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:37 pm to NoSaint
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Imagine if when one side lost their mind the other side simply met it with making the tent large and welcoming - instead of trying to run back policy like gay marriage.
You do realize that marriage is a society approval of relationships.
Once you put legal protections on gay relationships you cant keep them out of schools.
Everyone who is like leave the kids alone cannot keep gay indoctrination out of schools as long as gay marriage is legally protected.
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Carve out mental health as a hot button, and accept the influx of support on a lot of issues and years of majorities within representation
Yea that's exactly how groups get eaten from the inside.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:45 pm to Scott68
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As the father of a lesbian,
oh man. I'm sorry to hear. I pray she recovers or they find a cure.
a man deserves grandchildren.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:48 pm to ctiger69
government should not regulate marriages at all. Should not be a government issue. Let people select 1 person for tax benefits/health decisions and that is it
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:49 pm to RFK
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I’m sorry but what does any of this have to do with consenting adults deciding who to marry.
Exactly what we told you in 2015: slippery slope.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:50 pm to ctiger69
quote:Yes, 1000%.
Gay marriage should be reversed
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:52 pm to back9Tiger
quote:This is rich. You think Gay sex isn't perverted??? It's vile, disgusting, and unnatural.
Most of all the LGB utterly hate the trans movement because it perverted and wrecked what they are trying to do.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:52 pm to Powerman
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This thread is incredibly stupid
nah u are just dumb as shite powerbottom as always
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:52 pm to Narax
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You do realize that marriage is a society approval of relationships.
That’s what it should be.
Here it’s what 5 people who wear robes approved of.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:56 pm to FnTigers
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This is rich. You think Gay sex isn't perverted??? It's vile, disgusting, and unnatural.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:00 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
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I’m sorry but what does any of this have to do with consenting adults deciding who to marry.
Exactly what we told you in 2015: slippery slope.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:03 pm to Auburn80
What about gay married couples adopting?
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