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re: Should everyone have the right to vote?
Posted on 11/8/26 at 3:46 pm to DingLeeBerry
Posted on 11/8/26 at 3:46 pm to DingLeeBerry
No
Posted on 11/8/26 at 3:46 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:How would they vote?
OPP inmates awaiting trial can because they haven't been convicted yet.
Posted on 11/8/26 at 3:47 pm to DingLeeBerry
Voting should be a “shall issue” thing. Meaning it’s a natural right until you do something dumb enough to justify having the right taken away from you.
Posted on 11/8/26 at 3:48 pm to 4cubbies
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How would they vote?
In the past they brought in a voting machine.
Don't know how they do it now.
Posted on 11/8/26 at 3:53 pm to Bestbank Tiger
No, democracy is dumb. Only people who should be allow to vote is the ones capable of surviving in the wilderness for 2 months without dying. 
Posted on 11/8/26 at 4:10 pm to bbvdd
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A person should own land to be able to vote.
I’ve heard that said before and never understood the rationale. Ownership of land doesn’t make one a citizen. Hell plenty of non citizens own land. A 24 year old in the Navy who spends his life on a sub shouldn’t get the right to vote because they don’t own land for instance. It’s something said to sound edgy but in reality is a dumb argument to make.
Posted on 11/8/26 at 5:34 pm to DrKnievel
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Your aptitude tests sound like some Jim Crow level BS to prevent people from voting.
I know a lot of highly intelligent minorities who would have no issue with an aptitude test. Conversely I know a bunch of whites who couldn’t pass one if their lives depended on it. Has nothing to do with race or political affiliation and has everything to do with a basic understanding of the principles this country was founded on and living up to those principles.
Posted on 11/8/26 at 5:51 pm to UtahCajun
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Quite simply, no.
It is a mistake to think that voting is a right. It is not. Thinking that it is a right, produces undesirable outcomes for all.
Correct answer.
Nothing else works that way. NOTHING ELSE.
If you work for Wal Mart stocking shelves, you don't get a vote on who the new CEO is. You know why? Because you aren't qualified to make such a decision.
If you're an anesthesiologist with hospital privileges, you don't get to vote on who the new Chief Surgeon is.
Professors, staff, and students don't get an equal vote on the new college President.
Nothing works that way. NOTHING.
And there's a reason why.
It's obviously folly.
The fact that the left (and a huge portion of MAGA) hold universal participation out to be some huge virtue reflects how foolish they are.
I'm not telling you that I have thought about it enough to give you the best criteria for who gets to vote and who doesn't, but it is self-evident that it doesn't need to be everyone.
Posted on 11/8/26 at 5:54 pm to DingLeeBerry
Of course not
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:22 pm to UtahCajun
quote:rights are made up social constructs backed by forces. This is a made up country with a made up government backed by force. We decided that a document written 300 years ago held magical prophetic powers that should govern us for eternity. Our talisman says voting is a right.
It is a mistake to think that voting is a right. It is not.
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:36 pm to DingLeeBerry
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I know a lot of highly intelligent minorities who would have no issue with an aptitude test. Conversely I know a bunch of whites who couldn’t pass one if their lives depended on it. Has nothing to do with race or political affiliation and has everything to do with a basic understanding of the principles this country was founded on and living up to those principles.
You started at aptitude and have ended up at intelligence which are not the same thing. I’ll let you google the difference.
The problem is where do you draw the line. I’m not attacking you here but let’s hypothetically say you fall under the line. Are you ok losing your vote, or are you just concerned about penalizing others that in your eyes aren’t worthy? See the slippery slope here?
It’s the same issue I stated in my prior post. You are trying to anticipate bad decision makers before they have made a bad decision, at least in your eyes. Being stupid isn’t a crime, but a lot of stupid people commit crimes.
There is no such standard for citizenship (unless you are trying to become a citizen), so why do you think one should be applied to voting?
There will also be a problem administering ~175M tests. Yeah - let’s create more work for inefficient governments. The other subtlety here is we know the test won’t be free, so we are going to penalize low income earners with a cost they can’t afford? Doesn’t seem very democratic to me.
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:50 pm to DingLeeBerry
should be an iq test to demonstrate 105 +/- 5 (average iq). or just set up an asvab type test where if one wants to vote they have to take the test with a deadline 3 months before every 4 year election cycle and score in the 51st percentile.
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