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re: SFPLCs buddy spills the beans on Lawfare

Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:01 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:01 am to
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Imagine him doing this in court. He would get destroyed

I have to argue statutory interpretation in court. Unlike most lawyers, I've had a trial court reversed at the appellate level, effectively with the appeals court reversing its precedent, in a statutory interpretation matter

The argument "he's not right because he doesn't understand" is not effective in court.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:04 am to
You need to go back to the point prior in the discussion

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Any person who is prosecuted by LEO is, by default, an adversary


And you replied:

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The point is prejudiciously targeting an adversary as rationale for the charge, not bringing a fairly wrought charge into an adversarial court proceeding.


Now you say:

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They don't have to.

You sure?

Because I can just go back to:

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Any person who is prosecuted by LEO is, by default, an adversary


Then if you respond with "prejudiciously" or "targeting" language. I can just now reply:

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They don't have to.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
93763 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:05 am to
mission accomplished!

Hijack complete
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
18495 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:14 am to
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And several others have given different, competing definitions


STILL not a refute to what I gave you. Funny. You keep asking for a definition... when you get one you cannot deem as improper... you run to another "yea.. but!" distraction. Most words in the English language is polysemous, but you are grasping at this one.

quote:

Comey was an agent of Trump, part of his DOJ.


And AGAIN.. Comey broke agency policies and protocol. Now why did he do that?? And you keep harping on the ridiculous point that Comey was part of Trumps DOJ. Well if he was such an asset... why did he break violate FBI policy and procedure to go around Trump to get a ludicrous Special Counsel appointed due to Comey leaking a memo to the press. There... you actually helped prove my point. Good job!!

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How can me bringing up the person you reference be a deflecting?


YOU brought up Clinesmith as a struggle to keep footing on the entire sham Russian Collusion investigation by showing he was slapped on the wrist. Yet... you ignored the question as to WHY he got his slap on the wrist. What made him do what he did? What was the purpose for it?

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Now we're back to my point about legitimacy, where this always ends up, effectively.


By ignoring every point and mixing in what you hope to legitimize it. You have avoided mentioning what was brought to light as a result of Flynn's civil litigation, you haven't touched Peter Strozk and his involvement and anti Trump messages and sentiments, you haven't touched what the intent was by pursuing the investigation of the Steele Dossier when it was known it was bogus, and for the SEVENTH time, you will not touch the question of does any of what was done in relation to the Steele Dossier and meet the definition I gave? What about Comey and Strozk in the Flynn case?

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Your definition is so broad, the answer is "probably"


yes... because every legal definition in law is so precise.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
29282 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 10:26 am to
Thread title is poking fun at an idiot, the intent of this thread is the same as every other thread here: to discuss politics. He's going to derail political threads whether his name is in the title or not.
Posted by CT Hooktip
Fairmont, WV
Member since Jan 2024
456 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 10:30 am to
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I have to argue statutory interpretation in court. Unlike most lawyers, I've had a trial court reversed at the appellate level, effectively with the appeals court reversing its precedent, in a statutory interpretation matter


What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 60?

Your Honor
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
70047 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 10:30 am to
White male conservatives: the most persecuted and victimized group in human history. It’s heartbreaking…
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5582 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:14 am to
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14553 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:17 am to
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Still waiting on an operative definition of this

I’m going to keep it simple because you’re stupid.

It’s a contraction of the words LAW and warFARE.

LAWFARE is waging offensive political war against your political opponents with the abuse of lawsuits in favorably biased jurisdictions and in front of allied judges. Think Trump in Atlanta, NY City, and the Classified Documents DOJ investigations.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
142020 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:18 am to
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Because I can just go back to:
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Any person who is prosecuted ...
Unlike my characterization, yours does not fit the definition.



It's not complicated.
Posted by CT Hooktip
Fairmont, WV
Member since Jan 2024
456 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:23 am to
quote:

It's not complicated.


He can't help himself. It's what a good little ambulance-chaser does-make it complicated.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
142020 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:29 am to
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It’s heartbreaking…
Negative.
What is "heartbreaking" is that ANY group would be persecuted.

Your presumption accepts persecution and assesses its justification on a relative basis.

e.g., The equivalent premise: "Brian Thompson was murdered. Cry me a river. He wasn't Allie Rice. He was a rich healthcare insurance executive."
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5582 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:29 am to
It's amazing how everyone has his number. We've seen so much of his bullshite that everyone knows his game better than he does.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
486427 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:33 am to
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It's amazing how everyone has his number.

But they continue to lose when they try to argue with me

This thread is a great example
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:34 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
486427 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:37 am to
quote:

You keep asking for a definition..

I've gotten about 10 so far in this thread alone

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Now why did he do that?? And you keep harping on the ridiculous point that Comey was part of Trumps DOJ.

How many times did we see the "Biden DOJ" accused of "lawfare" against Trump?

Were those also ridiculous uses of the term?

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to go around Trump to get a ludicrous Special Counsel appointed

Trump's hand-picked AG appointed the SC

It wasn't James Comey

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YOU brought up Clinesmith as a struggle to keep footing on the entire sham Russian Collusion investigation

You asked a question about somethign he did. I discussed him. That's addressing the point directly, the opposite of "deflecting"

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
486427 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:38 am to
We're back to this:

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Any person who is prosecuted by LEO is, by default, an adversary
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41960 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:44 am to
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The argument "he's not right because he doesn't understand" is not effective in court.


You demonstrated understanding by making a claim of what the term is used for.

You literally played yourself
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
25322 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:46 am to
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Still waiting on an operative definition of this

The definition is in the eye of the beholder. Like that long deceased SC Justice said, I know it when I see it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
486427 posts
Posted on 10/22/26 at 11:46 am to
quote:

The definition is in the eye of the beholder. Like that long deceased SC Justice said, I know it when I see it.

You and reb are the ones who get it.
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