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Cajun Tiger 4
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Serious Question about a national divorce

Are we too far gone? Should we have a peaceful national divorce rather than a civil war? We could even be allies internationally. I just don't want to be associated with fellow citizens who don't believe in male/female, protecting the life of babies, and want a marxist society. We are just too different. Leftist and traditional Americans no longer share values. What do yall think? How will it all end? One thing is for sure. If that happened we would need basically the same constitution but just even more clear. We would also need to mandate patriotic and Christian education instead of teaching kids to hate the country. Not a theocracy mandated but even more overtly Christian in my opinion.
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The Maj
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You cannot have a peaceful national divorce... It is not possible and if I want a divorce, I damn sure do not want to be allies...


TrueTiger
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Right now the divorce rules are that you have to kill your spouse.

I agree that the Constitution needs a peaceful secession process. The European Union has one and the U.K. used it with Brexit.


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Tiger Prawn
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The problem is that the divide isn’t regional with north vs south or east vs west. The divide is urban vs rural. Even in blue states where Republicans have no shot at a statewide election, once you get outside the major cities, the rest of the state is usually pretty conservative. We think Oregon and Washington are bat shite crazy loons, but the blue parts make up maybe 1/4 of the overall territory. Its just that Portland and Seattle have so much higher population density that the rest of the state doesn’t have enough numbers to out vote the urban crazies. There’s no easy way to just peacefully divorce



jimmy the leg
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The problem is that the divide isn’t regional with north vs south or east vs west. The divide is urban vs rural.


London wanted to stay in the EU.

Yet Brexit happened.


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Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Should we have a peaceful national divorce

No such thing. The country cannot be split peacefully on any level. Trying to draw lines that anyone would consider acceptable is not possible.
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VADawg
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The problem is that the divide isn’t regional with north vs south or east vs west. The divide is urban vs rural.


It might be time to bring back city-states.


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ChunkyLover54
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The problem is that the divide isn’t regional with north vs south or east vs west.


Yeah. The logistics are just impossible shy of some kind of mass migration and complete reallocation of resources, tax structure, assets, everything. It would be like Yugoslavia and probably the same violence.
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David_DJS
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A federal gov't limited in the way it's constitutionally designed and renewal of states' rights would solve 95% of the problems.


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Marshhen
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No need for a “National Divorce”…we just need to reign in the bloated federal government and bring the powers back to the States.


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Let’s pretend like we’re Henry VIII.


Then, let’s get divorced.


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DallasTiger11
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No such thing. The country cannot be split peacefully on any level. Trying to draw lines that anyone would consider acceptable is not possible.

This. There’s zero chance we actually split into multiple countries without serious violence.

Our best hope at the moment is a return to a republic, not a democracy, and the original intention of our system of federalism. Federal power must be drastically reduced and returned to a more local level


Caraway Rye
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Member since Oct 2021
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The areas that make the food and control the supply of water can have food and water

Those that do not can have their own country

Seems pretty simple to me

Cap the water supply, refuse shipments of food.

The gender studies degree holders are smart enough to figure it out.

Shoot anyone fleeing a city
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Padme
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Yes three countries, give middle American, the south and San Diego as a western port to the MAGA OG country, the left coast to the bloods, and the north eastern to the crips and MS3, no reason why it can’t go peaceful, they want it, and we want it. The only group that doesn’t is the political elites.


gothamdawg
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India & Pakistan partition

Last time something similar happened, millions of lives were lost.

Not saying this will happen, but seems like social media echo chambers have made mortal enemies of us.


RonLaFlamme
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Federalism would significantly lower the temperature. Power aggregates and accrues more power though.


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VADawg
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but seems like social media echo chambers have made mortal enemies of us.


This is the doing of the left. Their persistent shoving ideology down everyone's throat and trying to ruin anyone's life who had a different viewpoint is what led to this.

And no, this is not a "both sides" thing. This is a one side thing.


Caraway Rye
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Yes three countries, give middle American, the south and San Diego as a western port to the MAGA OG country, the left coast to the bloods, and the north eastern to the crips and MS3, no reason why it can’t go peaceful, they want it, and we want it. The only group that doesn’t is the political elites.



60 miles from the coast from San Diego to Seattle. Country 1

30 miles from the coast from Boston to DC. Country 2

The rest of the United States. Country 3.

Done


beulahland
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Wall off th blue areas


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Indefatigable
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60 miles from the coast from San Diego to Seattle. Country 1

30 miles from the coast from Boston to DC. Country 2

The rest of the United States. Country 3.


And the vast majority of people in all three would disapprove.


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