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re: Serious long-term gaslighting re "authoritarians"
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:24 am to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:24 am to Big Scrub TX
Ok, but how is it gaslighting?
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:36 am to Big Scrub TX
Am I remembering incorrectly or did you (Big Scrub) used to fall more on the left side of the political spectrum?
I may be thinking of a different poster, or you may have stayed the same and the spectrum shifted on you. Just wondering.
I may be thinking of a different poster, or you may have stayed the same and the spectrum shifted on you. Just wondering.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:44 am to GumboPot
Nice list. I would add Pol Pot.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:48 am to Big Scrub TX
You could argue the neocons were pretty goddamn authoritarian in other countries, bombing them constantly and what not.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:37 am to Big Scrub TX
They should hurry up and enjoy their scholarly correspondence on the components of Leftist Authoritarian Rule, because, time is running out for that, and that kind of anti-Government speech will be banned in the foreseeable future.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:40 am to Big Scrub TX
If a person couldn’t see that communist countries are authoritarian, they’re too stupid to convince.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:49 am to AlxTgr
It's gaslighting because we all know that BOTH sides gaslight to some extent.
If youre a conservative, you believe many left wing policies are authoritarian. You believe it, because you SEE it. Like a poster above said, you could live in CA or NY and be basically not affected by Trumps presidency at all. However, if you live in FL or TX, you either are being affected by Biden in a big way, or you can easily see how some proposal WILL affect you in a big and noticeable way.
The left is being gaslit by this article as well. They believe the right is authoritarian. They cant really articulate how very well, but they damned sure believe it, while maintaining that their own position is not authoritarian. And now some shmuck is trying to tell them that they themselves might be authoritarian. It's directly counter to what they believe.
If you're made to question your own reality, or told that you don't really see things that are right in front of you, then youre being gaslit. Both sides are being told that the other is doing exactly what they themselves are doing.
If youre a conservative, you believe many left wing policies are authoritarian. You believe it, because you SEE it. Like a poster above said, you could live in CA or NY and be basically not affected by Trumps presidency at all. However, if you live in FL or TX, you either are being affected by Biden in a big way, or you can easily see how some proposal WILL affect you in a big and noticeable way.
The left is being gaslit by this article as well. They believe the right is authoritarian. They cant really articulate how very well, but they damned sure believe it, while maintaining that their own position is not authoritarian. And now some shmuck is trying to tell them that they themselves might be authoritarian. It's directly counter to what they believe.
If you're made to question your own reality, or told that you don't really see things that are right in front of you, then youre being gaslit. Both sides are being told that the other is doing exactly what they themselves are doing.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:08 am to Big Scrub TX
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Do you know a single person who thought left wing governments couldn't be authoritarian?
There was a guy for Salon or Slate a couple of months ago
who wrote an article proclaiming that it is impossible for leftist governments to be authoratarian.
They are the exact same people who believe only white people can be racists.
I'll give the writer credit. This may be the first time I have ever seen a writer in a leftist magazine admit that there is such a thing as being far-left. I have literally never seen that phrase used in a piece done by the left before.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:11 am to Big Scrub TX
There was an article in Salon last month that asserted that there’s no such thing as leftist authoritarianism.
I see the post above mine describing the same.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 9:12 am
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:19 pm to AlxTgr
quote:For years, these academics have been peddling nonsense...and now this article is presented as some revelation. It's gaslighting because any person with eyes knows about left wing authoritarians, and yet the pretense is the opposite is true.
Ok, but how is it gaslighting?
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:16 pm to Big Scrub TX
It's no surprise that our state media and universities brainwash people into believing that authoritarians can only be right wing. Our establishment has been left wing in ideology for a while now. To broadcast that left wing can be authoritarian, would indirectly make people wary of our establishment.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:18 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I'm still shaking my head at this utter nonsense:
I'm shaking my head that leftist dishonest regarding what they really are is news to anyone.
Oh, and yes, they are BY DEFINITION authoritarian. Yet, I know many liberals who look at you like you have 3 heads if you say it.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:26 pm to Big Scrub TX
The left-right spectrum is reductionist and simplistic, especially when discussing authoritarianism, totalitarianism, government oppression, and tyranny.
The disease of Stalin, Pot and Mao is the same disease of Hitler, Mussolini and Pinoche. The variations in rhetorical fodder these people employed are mostly irrelevant.
The disease of Stalin, Pot and Mao is the same disease of Hitler, Mussolini and Pinoche. The variations in rhetorical fodder these people employed are mostly irrelevant.
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