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re: Serbia-Kosovo conflict reigniting
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:12 pm to LSUAlum2001
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:12 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Remember when the Left said Trump would lead the world in WW3
Literally every single bad thing the left said Trump would do is actually happening under Biden.
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:13 pm to UtahCajun
quote:We are discussing the Kosovars (ethnicslly-Albanian Muslims in Kisovo), rather than the Bosniaks (who are ethnically-distinct from the Kosovars), but you are correct about the Bosniaks too.
Bosniacs have been there just as long as Serbs dawg. Tell me know nothing without telling me you know nothing.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:13 pm to Stealth Matrix
Can we do the right thing and back the Serbs this time? Before you uneducated sheep say anything in response, please note that I spent the better part of four years in the region…Croatia, Bosnia, Albania, Macedonia, Greece, and Kosovo. We helped the wrong side. Better yet, let’s just agree to stay the hell out of it.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:15 pm to salty1
quote:Salty, I am genuinely curious.
Can we do the right thing and back the Serbs this time?
Why do you consider it the “right thing” to keep a region which is 97% Kosovar under the thumb of a distant Serbian overlord?
Maybe having been there gives you some insight as to why that sort of thing would be appropriate.
quote:I think that my understanding of the history of the region is somewhat higher than the average American. Feel free to take that into account when preparing your response.
uneducated sheep
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:21 pm to AggieHank86
Albanian mafia or Albanian organized crime (Albanian: Mafia Shqiptare) are the general terms used for criminal organizations based in Albania or composed of ethnic Albanians. Albanian organized crime is active in Europe, North America, South America, and various other parts of the world including the Middle East and Asia. The Albanian Mafia participates in a diverse range of criminal enterprises including trafficking in drugs, arms, and humans. They are said to control a large part of the billion dollar wholesale cocaine market in Europe and appear to be the primary distributors of cocaine in various European drug hubs including London.[2][3][1] Albanian organized crime is characterized by diversified criminal enterprises which, in their complexity, demonstrate a very high criminal capacity. In Albania, there are over 15 mafia families that control organized crime.
The Albanian mafia has monopolized various international affiliations from as far east as Israel, to as far west as South America. These reports primarily indicate a strong connection between politicians and various Albanian mafia families. According to the Research Institute for European and American Studies (RIEAS), Albanian mafia groups are hybrid organizations (i.e. composed of people from various sectors of society), and are often involved in both criminal and political activities.[4]
The Albanian Mafia constitutes one of the highest crime generating elements in the world, combining the "traditional" characteristics of organized crime – its rigid internal discipline, its clan structure, its "endogamic closure" (marrying within the organization) which increases the organization's impermeability, and its internal cohesion – with modern and innovative characteristics, such as trans-nationality, commercial imprinting and its criminogenous culture of service. The massive logistic capacity and the diverse nature of Albanian organized crime has facilitated its establishment outside the mother country and its integration with local criminal elements.
In the United States, the term "Albanian Mafia" may include or refer specifically to various Albanian-American organized crime groups, such as the Rudaj Organization and the Albanian Boys, both based in New York City. Albanian-American crime groups vary in the extent of their connections to Albanian mafia groups in Albania or Europe, ranging from loosely connected to or mostly independent of Albanian mafias in Europe to being essentially American extensions of European Albanian mafia groups.
Kosovo is ruled by the former K.L.A (Kosovo Liberation Army), U.C.K in Albanian, a murderous terrorist “coallition” of Kosovo Albanian criminal clans, bred in criminality and sponsored by imperialistic and bellicist countries.
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The Albanian mafia has monopolized various international affiliations from as far east as Israel, to as far west as South America. These reports primarily indicate a strong connection between politicians and various Albanian mafia families. According to the Research Institute for European and American Studies (RIEAS), Albanian mafia groups are hybrid organizations (i.e. composed of people from various sectors of society), and are often involved in both criminal and political activities.[4]
The Albanian Mafia constitutes one of the highest crime generating elements in the world, combining the "traditional" characteristics of organized crime – its rigid internal discipline, its clan structure, its "endogamic closure" (marrying within the organization) which increases the organization's impermeability, and its internal cohesion – with modern and innovative characteristics, such as trans-nationality, commercial imprinting and its criminogenous culture of service. The massive logistic capacity and the diverse nature of Albanian organized crime has facilitated its establishment outside the mother country and its integration with local criminal elements.
In the United States, the term "Albanian Mafia" may include or refer specifically to various Albanian-American organized crime groups, such as the Rudaj Organization and the Albanian Boys, both based in New York City. Albanian-American crime groups vary in the extent of their connections to Albanian mafia groups in Albania or Europe, ranging from loosely connected to or mostly independent of Albanian mafias in Europe to being essentially American extensions of European Albanian mafia groups.
Kosovo is ruled by the former K.L.A (Kosovo Liberation Army), U.C.K in Albanian, a murderous terrorist “coallition” of Kosovo Albanian criminal clans, bred in criminality and sponsored by imperialistic and bellicist countries.
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:25 pm to basionok
Quoting a Quora post? 
You forgot to call them “bandits.” That is the accepted despotic terminology.
You forgot to call them “bandits.” That is the accepted despotic terminology.
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:26 pm to AggieHank86
At this rate The Biden Administration will oversee a battle involving Argentina and Britain again.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:26 pm to RollTide1987
quote:America has a few mass shootings. Europe has full on wars and genocides.
The powder keg of Europe never fails to disappoint.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:27 pm to MrLSU
quote:Don't laugh. Argentina is having yet another collapse.
At this rate The Biden Administration will oversee a battle involving Argentina and Britain again.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:31 pm to Marcus Aurelius II
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Every World War starts in the Balkans. WW2 didn't lol
Trick question, the answer WWI never really ended.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 6:07 pm to AggieHank86
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You clearly know no history. That is not what happened. Isolated incidents, here and there? Sure, those are documented. But it was not the general rule.
There are few reliable historical records from that era to begin with. So to say that there were isolated incidents or massed conversions belies scholarship as the vast majority of the material we have from that time period is legend rather than actual history. What we do know, however, is that there were periods of religious tolerance followed by periods of persecution. Christians were treated as second class citizens in Islamic Spain while Jews and Muslims were likewise treated as second class citizens in Christian Spain.
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I could cite you to 20 learned articles
Then do it.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 7:52 pm to AggieHank86
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You are an idiot.
Nah, you’re just a radical Muslim apologist, a pedophile defender, and a communist. That’s why you rack up so many downvotes here.
And you’re not even a lawyer because no real lawyer has the time to spend that you do posting here.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 7:54 pm to Lightning
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Is this why the best local pizza places in my area are all Albanian-owned? They are all called Big Joe’s or Sal’s, but everyone running them is Albanian and they make a hell of a pizza.
Arthur Avenue in the Bronx?
Posted on 7/31/22 at 7:56 pm to Mo Jeaux
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We were on the wrong side of that conflict.
yup. we aided muzzie albanian narco terrorists who started shite in kosovo
frick the KLA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA!!!!!!!!
Posted on 7/31/22 at 7:59 pm to RollTide1987
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I could cite you to 20 learned articles Then do it.
CommieHank ain’t gonna cite shite
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:33 pm to RollTide1987
This is a good, short summary, to get you started. Some excerpts:
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One adjustment both communities were spared: changing their religion. Both Christians and Jews could convert, if they wished, but the victorious Muslims did not force either group to do so since according to Islamic law they were dhimmis, i.e. they enjoyed protection because they were Ahl al-Kitab, “Peoples of the Book” whose faith was founded on revelation. (The “Book” was the Bible, a partial and incomplete revelation of God’s word, which was fully disclosed in the Qur’an.)
This protection afforded to Christians and Jews was a religious obligation founded on sharia, or traditional Islamic law, and not subject to the whims of politics, at least in theory.
quote:In other words, there was no massive, forced conversion immediately after the Conquest. Conversion of the majority of the populace was a slow process.
By virtue of isolation, rural areas contained a substantial number of Christians, even a majority according to the observation made by the Arab geographer, Ibn Hawqal, on a visit to al-Andalus in 948.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:52 pm to RollTide1987
Here is a more scholarly work, focused upon two issues. First, identifying WHEN conversion peaked. Second, examining WHY Iberians converted.
As to the first question, the author examines a number of theories but reaches no definitive conclusion on a specific date during the first two centuries. As to OUR point (forced military conversion) immediately after the Conquest, the second half of the paper is instructive. It discusses half a dozen reasons for conversion in the first two centuries of Muslim rule. “Compulsion” is not even ONE of them.
As to the first question, the author examines a number of theories but reaches no definitive conclusion on a specific date during the first two centuries. As to OUR point (forced military conversion) immediately after the Conquest, the second half of the paper is instructive. It discusses half a dozen reasons for conversion in the first two centuries of Muslim rule. “Compulsion” is not even ONE of them.
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:09 pm to RollTide1987
This should give you more to chew on.. Excerpts:
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Muslim Arabs substituted the Visigoths as rulers over the local Hispano-Roman population, who were (even if only nominally) Christians and whose languages were Latin and Romance. They, together with the Jews, became "protected peoples" (dhimmis ), being allowed to preserve their religion and their community life, although always in a position of subordination to the Muslims.
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Latin culture was still predominant in the ninth century, but in the tenth century the Christians of al-Andalus started to translate their religious literature (the Psalms, the canons of the Visigothic church) into Arabic.
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In the tenth century, Arabic became the predominant written language and in the eleventh and twelfth centuries, the predominant spoken language. Arabic monolingualism (with diglossia between written Arabic and the spoken dialects) became the norm from the thirteenth century onward.
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In opposition to what happened with Latin and Romance language and culture, the Jews of al-Andalus were able to maintain Hebrew as their religious and literary language and it became pivotal in the defence of their cultural identity, while at the same time they carried out a deep absorption of Arabic language and culture.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:48 pm to AggieHank86
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2. Ethnic Serbs in Kosovo are refusing to obtain Kosovar identity documents and vehicle plates, and Serbia sees this as a gross violation of human rights?
Speaking of gross violations of human rights, tell us about the ethnic cleansing and destruction of Christian churches that has been taking place for the past 23 years in Kosovo.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:50 pm to AggieHank86
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We are discussing the Kosovars (ethnicslly-Albanian Muslims in Kisovo),
You mean Kosovar Albanians or Kosovar Serbs?
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