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re: Second City in China, Huanggang, is being put on lockdown
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:49 am to UnitedFruitCompany
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:49 am to UnitedFruitCompany
I forgot that Chinese New Year is coming up.
Until you’ve seen it, you really can’t comprehend what it’s like when a country of 1.3 billion all take a week of vacation at the same time to travel back to their hometowns, especially when that is the only break most get and you consider the urban migration that has occurred in the last 20 years.
Train stations and airports are absolute cattle yards.
Add in the air pollution that triggers coughing and nose blowing on an industrial scale, and the implications are legitimately scary.
Gong Xi Fa Cai!
ETA: Oh, and 2020 is the Year of the Rat.
Until you’ve seen it, you really can’t comprehend what it’s like when a country of 1.3 billion all take a week of vacation at the same time to travel back to their hometowns, especially when that is the only break most get and you consider the urban migration that has occurred in the last 20 years.
Train stations and airports are absolute cattle yards.
Add in the air pollution that triggers coughing and nose blowing on an industrial scale, and the implications are legitimately scary.
Gong Xi Fa Cai!
ETA: Oh, and 2020 is the Year of the Rat.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 9:18 am
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:55 am to Supravol22
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Until healthy people start dropping, I'm not too concerned.
You believe the Chinese government reports? I am with some of the earlier posters, it has to be more than 17 deaths for them to take such draconian measures as locking down cities of millions and millions. I don't believe them.
Scary thing is the Chinese New Year. It is the biggest mass migration that happens on Earth. They are probably past the best window they had to effectively contain this thing.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:01 am to wareaglepete
And now Macau is considering closing their casinos. Great. Gwyneth Paltrow needs to just stay there and not come home. Because I've seen this movie, too.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:08 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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The first issue with this is equating the Chinese government and its people to the US government and its people.
The Chinese government has the means and will to do something like this at a far earlier, and actually more crucial period of time (to slow infection) than the US does.
I wouldn't read into the fact they are taking these measures earlier than we can as some sign thousands have died already on its own. It's just what totalitarian states can do that we can't.
I agree... hell, they operate concentration camps with a million people in them. However, a big part of the Asian psyche (and China's gov in particular) is outward appearances. I have to think that quarantining off 20 million people is pretty bad optics in the mind of the Chinese government, but letting loose a worldwide pandemic would be worse, so they're going with the quarantine option. I don't think they would resort to measures that would imply dysfunction within the government/social order unless the alternative option (disease spreading rapidly) would be worse.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:13 am to UnitedFruitCompany
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Gwyneth Paltrow needs to just stay there and not come home.
Is that where she's making the candles? If so, I'm starting to understand the outbreak of airborne diseases.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:22 am to Ag Zwin
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Is that where she's making the candles?
ha ha. Maybe that is what started this mess...
She was in the movie, Contagion:
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When Beth Emhoff (Gwyneth Paltrow) returns to Minnesota from a Hong Kong business trip, she attributes the malaise she feels to jet lag. However, two days later, Beth is dead, and doctors tell her shocked husband (Matt Damon) that they have no idea what killed her. Soon, many others start to exhibit the same symptoms, and a global pandemic explodes. Doctors try to contain the lethal microbe, but society begins to collapse as a blogger (Jude Law) fans the flames of paranoia
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:31 am to FredBear
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:32 am to Ag Zwin
Now three cities in China are on rockdown.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:43 am to Goforit
Its spreading to more countries. Its highly contagious and can be spread by coughing. In my opinion its too late to contain and just a matter of time before it makes its way here. The good news is that if you are healthy you will probably be ok.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 9:45 am
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:48 am to crap4brain
I started having some sniffles last night. It was nice knowing all of you. 
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:50 am to crap4brain
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The good news is that if you are healthy you will probably be ok.
Famous last words... past flu epidemics have killed healthy young adults through a cytokine storm. It will really all depend on how the virus mutates and how your average person's immune system reacts to it... I dont think we have nearly enough information yet to sort all that out.
Info on Cytokine Swarms
TL;DR -
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A cytokine storm is an overproduction of immune cells and their activating compounds (cytokines), which, in a flu infection, is often associated with a surge of activated immune cells into the lungs. The resulting lung inflammation and fluid buildup can lead to respiratory distress and can be contaminated by a secondary bacterial pneumonia -- often enhancing the mortality in patients.
This little-understood phenomenon is thought to occur in at least several types of infections and autoimmune conditions, but it appears to be particularly relevant in outbreaks of new flu variants. Cytokine storm is now seen as a likely major cause of mortality in the 1918-20 "Spanish flu" -- which killed more than 50 million people worldwide -- and the H1N1 "swine flu" and H5N1 "bird flu" of recent years. In these epidemics, the patients most likely to die were relatively young adults with apparently strong immune reactions to the infection -- whereas ordinary seasonal flu epidemics disproportionately affect the very young and the elderly.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:51 am to PsychTiger
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I started having some sniffles last night. It was nice knowing all of you.
High doses of alcohol will kill it, you'll be fine.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:51 am to crap4brain
Thanks for posting thiS! very informative.
Might stop shaking peoples hands for the immediate future...lol
Might stop shaking peoples hands for the immediate future...lol
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:14 am to Rex Feral
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17 dead isn't thinning, it's less than Saturday afternoon homicides Chicago.
That is one of the stupidest comments I have ever seen. It's an issue of percentages, not absolute numbers. The percentage of dead is fairly high for flu but look at the numbers in critical condition. Only 400 or so infected at this point and probably close to 1/4 critical or dead. So, when 4 million get it, 1 million are in critical condition - but the medical system is overwhelmed so you end up with those 1 million dead. The rumors in China are that this is a gene-modified virus. This is a huge fricking deal - and it has already spread to other countries.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:16 am to UnitedFruitCompany
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Huanggang, population 7.4 Million
I feel like China has like 50 cities with over a million people that I’ve never even heard of.
ETA: just looked it up and that ended up not even being an exaggeration.
LINK
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 10:18 am
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:22 am to OBReb6
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ETA: just looked it up and that ended up not even being an exaggeration.
According to your link, the number is 102
Edit: Is it too early to start drilling my own water well and stocking up on food?
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 10:24 am
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:23 am to OBReb6
I have been all over interior China, including Wuhan.
It's more than 50 of over a million. I would say 100's over a million no one has heard of. 1 million is considered a small city/town.
It's hard to conceptualize. There are people and buildings everywhere. All around Wuhan are cities of 3-6 million.
Wuhan is actually one of my favorite cities. It has incredible food and a great British history (and buildings).
Hubei, Sichuan, and Hunan alone probably have 50 cities of over a million and before this outbreak most had only heard of Chengdu in these 3 provinces.
It's more than 50 of over a million. I would say 100's over a million no one has heard of. 1 million is considered a small city/town.
It's hard to conceptualize. There are people and buildings everywhere. All around Wuhan are cities of 3-6 million.
Wuhan is actually one of my favorite cities. It has incredible food and a great British history (and buildings).
Hubei, Sichuan, and Hunan alone probably have 50 cities of over a million and before this outbreak most had only heard of Chengdu in these 3 provinces.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:25 am to Tiger Attorney
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Wuhan is actually one of my favorite cities. It has incredible food
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:28 am to Tiger Attorney
Sounds like the jackpot when it comes to flu epidemics.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:28 am to Tiger Attorney
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Wuhan is actually one of my favorite cities. It has incredible food
Chengdu, FTW.
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