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re: SCOTUS Says You Don't Have To Bake That Gay Cake

Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42352 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:26 am to
So, I assume this other lady, in South Carolina is covered by this ruling? She was sued by the state AG and was waiting on a petition to get to SCOTUS. I guess this ruling smashes that and tells the AG to get fricked?
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130268 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:27 am to
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Which is why i said "good friggin luck" constructing something after this ruling that avoids this problem.



I agree. As I've said, I don't think this is as narrow as people are making it out to be.

States are going to have a really hard time trying to construct a completely neutral process.

Basically they'll have to say you can't refuse service to ANYONE. So a gay baker may have to bake a cake that says "I hate f-gs."
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:29 am to
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Wow. You really don't get it.


Your point isn't "it"...it's just your opinion...subject to disagreement...and with or without your bias, potentially just wrong
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:30 am to
7-2 decision. So relatively strong support. In this case “narrow” means they are confining to the facts of this particular case and not taking a broader policy perspective. Perhaps not surprising, given how poorly the Colorado Civil Rights Commission wording was in this case.

Also Kagan is not nearly as bad of a Justice as a lot here make her out to be. She is a lot better than Sotomayor and Ginsburg.
Posted by Techdog89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
1001 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:31 am to
More power to them. I hope they sue, win, then reopen next door to a Chik-Fil-A and sell thousands of cakes!
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86191 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:31 am to
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Your point isn't "it"...it's just your opinion...subject to disagreement...and with or without your bias, potentially just wrong


He isn't even arguing against my opinion.

He is arguing against the wrong point.

And I would love for you to tell what "bias" I have in this case
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 10:33 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130268 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:33 am to
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Also Kagan is not nearly as bad of a Justice as a lot here make her out to be.


I respect Kagan. She's smart and reasonable, even if I don't agree with her the vast majority of the time.

I do not respect Sotomayor at all. A hack of the highest order, a complete ideologue without a unique thought in her head. One of the worst appointments in modern history, and will go down to Court followers as one of the worst appointments of all time.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:34 am to
quote:

I agree. As I've said, I don't think this is as narrow as people are making it out to be.

States are going to have a really hard time trying to construct a completely neutral process.

Basically they'll have to say you can't refuse service to ANYONE. So a gay baker may have to bake a cake that says "I hate f-gs."

Yup
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:35 am to
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I do not respect Sotomayor at all. A hack of the highest order,
Hell. She basically admitted she's a hack.

The woman openly supports the idea of making decisions based upon her ethnicity.
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
19289 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:37 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:38 am to
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"Narrow" perfectly describes the ruling It is isn't the responsibility of the media to cater to your fragile, emotional mind


Eh, methinks they knew what they were doing with that word choice.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79465 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:39 am to
*takes big sniff*

Smells like freedom...
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40860 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:40 am to
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Salmon and Beam thoughtfully articulated their points. And they are good ones. Your post, however, was silly.


I articulated the same point pages ago, so this sentence makes no sense.

Just my interpretation.

<--also a worthless bloodsucking lawyer
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 10:45 am
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86191 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:40 am to
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Eh, methinks they knew what they were doing with that word choice.


If they were trying to mislead, they wouldn't have put the 7-2 decision in the 1st paragraph

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130268 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:41 am to
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If they were trying to mislead, they wouldn't have put the 7-2 decision in the 1st paragraph


To be fair, the vast majority of people only read headlines.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17241 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:42 am to
The narrowly is in reference to what the ruling SAYS not the vote COUNT.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177328 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:42 am to
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Eh, methinks they knew what they were doing with that word choice.


Yeah all these arse hat wanna be legal scholars in this thread are hung up over the word narrow. The media used that word for the reason of misleading viewers and readers. People will see the word narrow and not know the context of its usage. People will think it was a 5-4 decision won by the hardline alt-right nazi justices and cause a riot.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86191 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Yeah all these arse hat wanna be legal scholars in this thread are hung up over the word narrow.


You have that backwards.

quote:

The media used that word for the reason of misleading viewers and readers. People will see the word narrow and not know the context of its usage. People will think it was a 5-4 decision won by the hardline alt-right nazi justices and cause a riot.


And then they made the context clear within the 1st paragraph of the article

So misleading

Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:45 am to
Narrow is the term lawyers use to describe rulings of this type. What it means for the next set of cases that this was ruled on a narrow basis, we shall see.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:45 am to
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The narrowly is in reference to what the ruling SAYS not the vote COUNT.

Sheesh. I know.

I mean........read the thread.
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