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Scientific American dismisses Scientific Rigor

Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:56 pm
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1638 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:56 pm
City Journal

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Naomi Oreskes, a Harvard professor of the history of science, argued that by “prioritizing scientific rigor” in its mask studies, the Cochrane Library may have “misled the public,” such that “the average person could be confused” about the efficacy of masks. Oreskes criticized Cochrane for its “standard . . . methodological procedures,” as Cochrane bases its “findings on randomized controlled trials, often called the ‘gold standard’ of scientific evidence.” Since RCTs haven’t shown that masks work, she writes, “[i]t’s time those standard procedures were changed.”


This will help us make better more informed decisions! /sarc
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98847 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:57 pm to
Trust the science… unless it goes against one of the tenets of our woke religion.
Posted by SquaringCircles
Member since Sep 2021
1459 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:59 pm to
SciAm is just an industry rag at this point. Their Covid origins propaganda was over the top. While we’re on the topic, Nature and Science also completely beclowned themselves.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26620 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:00 pm to
So she wants the standards changed, because they disprove what she believes. How in the hell does that bitch make it through a normal day?
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68275 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

time those standard procedures were changed.”



Wow.

Let's change the way we do research to get the result we want.

I mean, we knew they did this all of 2020 but to flat out admit it is something
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6476 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:14 pm to
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This will help us make better more informed decisions! /sarc


I’ve said it before: these people have killed off the traditional American trust of expertise.
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
3381 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Harvard professor of the history of science


So she wasn’t smart enough to actually learn and practice science so she learned about the history of science? And wants people to take her word on what makes good science? OK.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50026 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:17 pm to
I hate masks and I know they don’t work. That being said, I always assumed conservatives would be more apathetic about them because of the privacy they afford to the wearer.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98610 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:20 pm to
Sounds like The Bee
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5547 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 8:42 pm to
Bruer addresses this in his new routine and craps on science
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78431 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 8:50 pm to
BTW, if you aren’t reading City Journal every month, you are doing it wrong.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41648 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 12:08 am to
Science is a tool that humanity can misuse or abuse like any other tool. It’s why those who place science above all else don’t realize that they are making an idol that is as fallible as mankind.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
2355 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 12:10 am to
The US is a corpse in the dark ages.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29040 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 12:24 am to
I would be ok with an asteroid destroying every single Ivy League school.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
10978 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 3:09 am to
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Naomi Oreskes, a Harvard professor


In all seriousness, it's time to close this place and ignore everyone with a Harvard degree.

This piece reminds me of something that was published in Science, almost a decade ago. Authors from MIT and at least one Ivy got data from NIH that no one else was able to get, then conducted this analysis that was deliberately set up to demonstrate how much "value" the "elite" institutions add to science. It was a stepwise regression, which can be heavily biased depending on how you load the variables, and it just so happened that the loading was done in such a way that it produced numbers that supported their argument. What a shocking surprise!

This was essentially a response to the accusations that the game is rigged - which it is. The big name schools have people that are connected to gov, and thus all the major sponsors of research. They know what grant announcements are coming, often times write them themselves; they are on review panels; they are on editorial boards...and as expected they get all the funding, get published more than others etc. Everyone in research knows it's rigged, so these people set out to try and convince people that it isn't rigged. The work was not well done, and it was very shady to have data that no one else could access. And it wasn't a coincidence that it got published in the #1 journal (allegedly) in the world.

I don't know if people understand how bad science is in the US. There are some brilliant people in it, but there's a lot of corruption as well, and a tremendous amount of waste.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
10978 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 3:14 am to
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SciAm is just an industry rag at this point. Their Covid origins propaganda was over the top. While we’re on the topic, Nature and Science also completely beclowned themselves.


All true. It's sad how political Nature and Science have gotten.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118728 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 4:22 am to
See my sig.
Posted by Bernie Bierman
Member since Mar 2019
1182 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 5:26 am to
Progressive bros, where would humxnity be if it weren’t for us progressing humxnity forward?

Pretty frightening if you think about it.
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