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re: San Antonio cop shoots 17 year old for "Eating while not driving" (OP edited to own error)
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:03 pm to Alt26
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:03 pm to Alt26
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The attempting to run is what caused the cop to shoot. That seems abundantly clear.
BINGO.
Regardless of whether cop is right or wrong, why do something stupid?
Not gonna matter whether cop is right or wrong when you are dead.
Just comply and live to sort it out later. He files complaint and video footage is then going to be investigated.
Respect and self-responsibility are severely lacking in today's society and we see the direct results of it on the daily.
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:03 pm to Alt26
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In fact, in just viewing the raw video it's hard to say it was.
impossible is the word you are looking for. It is impossible to say it is justified.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:09 pm to riccoar
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Respect and self-responsibility are severely lacking in today's society and we see the direct results of it on the daily.
It’s clear that cop has zero respect for personal property and invaded that kids space without cause.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:12 pm to SUB
quote:It looked to me like he was was trying to put it in park and accidentally hit reverse but even if it was on purpose, emptying a clip into a fleeing car (and possibly killing other occupants or bystanders by spraying the parking lot) is the most insane overreaction imaginable. This cop should be charged and definitely never be allowed to own another weapon for the rest of his life. He is clearly not suited for the job
The dude literally started driving in reverse when the Cop told him to get out of the car.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:15 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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It looked to me like he was was trying to put it in park and accidentally hit reverse but even if it was on purpose, emptying a clip into a fleeing car (and possibly killing other occupants or bystanders by spraying the parking lot) is the most insane overreaction imaginable. This cop should be charged and definitely never be allowed to own another weapon for the rest of his life. He is clearly not suited for the job
Bingo.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:16 pm to JayDeerTay84
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It’s clear that cop has zero respect
OK, Michael Brown's father. Keep living your miserable life mad at the police because you fricked up and acted like a douche at some point and never learned respect or self-responsibility.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:22 pm to riccoar
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OK, Michael Brown's father. Keep living your miserable life mad at the police because you fricked up and acted like a douche at some point and never learned respect or self-responsibility
You don’t know me baw. We are talking about this case. Not your fantasies.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:25 pm to Alt26
quote:who runs from a cop in reverse when there's nothing in front of you?
It's because the kid almost immediately put the car in gear and tried to run
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:26 pm to BengalOnTheBay
quote:yeah pretty much all this. Anyone still arguing should reread this post and stfu
A) Do we know the kid intended to put the car in gear? His hand goes to the shifter and he says "what?" Was it in already in gear with his foot on the brake and he intended to put it in park but instead accidentally put it in reverse? I don't know, neither do you.
B) Did he intend to run or did he backup accidentally and then run when the cop started shooting at him because an innocent 17 year old kid might be really scared and confused why a cop was shooting him?
C) Do cops generally start shooting at people who are fleeing but have done nothing to show themselves to be a direct threat to the officer (or public, for that matter)?
D) A dipshit cop that acted inappropriately from start to finish and seemed to be ready to start gunning someone down from the get-go is what led to the shots. To say otherwise is disingenuous.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:28 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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who runs from a cop in reverse when there's nothing in front of you?
He was in a parking spot. It’s hard to tell if there was a concrete barrier at the edge of the slot, but there was no roadway ahead.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:29 pm to riccoar
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Just comply and live to sort it out later. He files complaint and video footage is then going to be investigated.
Timeout. No.
You have rights. Included in those rights is the 4th amendment. Cops cannot waltz up to your car, say it looked similar to one they saw previously doing something, and then demand to search it and demand you get out. You can allow them to. They cannot demand you let them with that flimsy probable cause.
They can threaten, they can ask nicely, they can tell you “you are just making it harder on yourself” or some bs scare tactic. But with no probable cause, there is no search without a warrant. And good luck on them getting a warrant because “it looked like a car I saw breaking the law last night”
Would you do the same at your house? A cop shows up and demands you get out and let them in to search? Because he thinks a home in the neighborhood is selling drugs?
Hell no you wouldn’t.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:30 pm to JayDeerTay84
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It’s clear that cop has zero respect for personal property and invaded that kids space without cause.
I think the point he is trying to make is if the kid doesn't try to run he very likely doesn't get shot. AGAIN, that's not to say the cop was right or justified in his action. It's that the kid unnecessarily set the wheels in motion that led to the shooting. Trying to run wasn't going to work out into anything good. Even if the cop had not shot him it's not as if the cop would have said "oh well...maybe next time." There would have been a chase or at least a hunt for the vehicle.
If I were just sitting in my car eating and a cop accosted me when I had done nothing wrong I would probably be scared and angry too. But I wouldn't try to run because that wouldn't lead to any good result.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:30 pm to BoudinChicot
quote:I understand the sentiment and actually agree. But this is an opportunity to examine police behavior without all the hysterical shrieking from race hustlers who don't really give a shite about the truth. So maybe concentrate on that
If this kid was black the entire country would be on fire today
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:33 pm to Alt26
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AGAIN, that's not to say the cop was right or justified in his action. It's that the kid unnecessarily set the wheels in motion that led to the shooting
The kid set this in motion?
You are fricking retarded if that’s how you view this.
You cant say the shooting was unjustified and then say the kid caused the shooting. Doesn’t work like that.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:39 pm to Areddishfish
quote:bullshite. You don't jerk open the door of a car and then shoot into a fleeing car at night and the keep firing into the parking lot behind. This isn't fricking Beirut. You walk carefully up to the car with your flashlight shining into the window and announce yourself as a police officer.
that it was in fact the same guy and he remembered the cop and tried to flee again knocking him down with the door. Based on that alone, the first shots were justified.
And what's the most terrible thing about this is that IT WASN'T EVEN THE SAME CAR. There was ZERO pc to do anything because this idiot cop had (again) HAD THE WRONG frickING CAR
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:40 pm to Areddishfish
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Based on that alone, the first shots were justified.
Lol
No
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:42 pm to aubie101
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I hope he gets attempted murder charge.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:43 pm to David_DJS
quote:no
Can a cop walk up, open your door and demand you get out without identifying himself and establishing why he's at your door in the first place?
quote:in a traffic stop he can compel you to get out of the car and identify. If you can any find evidence this was a traffic stop then you have better eyes than I do
Further, he can't compel you to get out of the car without probable cause, right?
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:44 pm to UncleFestersLegs
Again, based on young age of/ tats on officer, I think you have to look into gang related activity.
That's the kind of action a dirty cop might perform in what he thought was retribution of a deal gone wrong (alledgedly the wrong guy based on reports and admission of police chief).
That's the kind of action a dirty cop might perform in what he thought was retribution of a deal gone wrong (alledgedly the wrong guy based on reports and admission of police chief).
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:44 pm to UncleFestersLegs
Double post
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 1:45 pm
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