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Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:32 am to JayDeerTay84
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It seemed clear his gun was within reach and highly likely it was visible.
This is the case with every single interaction with a cop. Which is why it makes no sense to describe the situation as "cop pulls up with a gun" if you were not insulating that gun was drawn.
It's absurd that you expect anyone to believe that is what you meant.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:33 am to SUB
It does become relevant when the cop starts, you know, shooting the person within seconds of the encounter.
It would certainly be relevant if the driver had a gun.
It would certainly be relevant if the driver had a gun.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:35 am to SUB
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This is the case with every single interaction with a cop. Which is why it makes no sense to describe the situation as "cop pulls up with a gun" if you were not insulating that gun was drawn.
It's absurd that you expect anyone to believe that is what you meant.
It was a statement of fact. You are reading into it what you must for your own personal bias.
Simple as that.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:35 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Kid panics after being threatened at gunpoint and turns back toward the interior of the car
Fify.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:40 am to the808bass
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Then you’re fighting over what amounts to nothing.
I disagree. The sequence of events is important to understand what and why things went down the way they did.
If he had his gun drawn...it's much more understandable why the kid may have reacted the way he did.
If no gun drawn, then why did he try to speed away? The cop didn't announce himself, so maybe the kid didn't know if it was a cop - though I assume he was in uniform as I read he was on duty. It happened so fast too, and it seems this was meant to surprise him...probably not protocol for these types of stops (if that's even the right word).
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:41 am to SUB
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The sequence of events is important to understand what and why things went down the way they did.
Except you agree he screwed up and should be disciplined. You’re either arguing dishonestly yourself or you’re being dumb.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:41 am to Tupelo
If the kid dies I’m ok with the death penalty for the cop
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:49 am to SUB
quote:They went wrong because the cop was wrong to start.
I disagree. The sequence of events is important to understand what and why things went down the way they did.
Its really that fricking simple.
If the kid dies, you cant tell the parents, "well even though this cop should not have opened his door un announced etc, if your son only would have......"
Cops are civil SERVATNS. Not the other way around.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 11:51 am
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:50 am to the808bass
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Then you’re fighting over what amounts to nothing. If you think he should be disciplined up to and including potentially firing, you agree with the people you are arguing with.
My argument in this thread has solely been fact vs fiction, and not if the cop was right or wrong. Getting the facts right matters. People in this country destroy cities over made up details regarding altercations with cops.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 11:51 am
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:53 am to SUB
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My argument in this thread has solely been fact vs fiction,
Says the guy that added words such as "gun drawn" to statements I never made.
Shut up loser.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:53 am to deltaland
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Kid fricked up here.
Yeah, that fricker was in a car the cop mistook for a different offender. The nerve of that kid.
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but always show your hands and comply with orders
What's your favorite flavor of boot?
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:58 am to SUB
quote:Quick question..
SUB
Why is the cop shooting in this situation?
Opening the door and drawing shortly after is insane.
But blasting the kid to hell?
Wtf was that about?
Posted on 10/7/22 at 12:00 pm to SUB
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He claimed the cop opened the door and drew his gun. All the evidence available shows that to not be the correct sequence of events.
So you're arguing the evidence says he drew his gun then opened the door? I don't think you know what you're even posting.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 12:01 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Why is the cop shooting in this situation?
Opening the door and drawing shortly after is insane.
But blasting the kid to hell?
Wtf was that about?
Again...cop was not justified in his actions. I can only go based on what the video shows and what the cop said, which was that when the car was put in reverse, the door came into contact with him (it appears). It seems that immediately after that, he drew his gun and shot. So make of that what you will. Yes, it all happened very fast.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 12:04 pm to David_DJS
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So you're arguing the evidence says he drew his gun then opened the door?
No...in the same post you quoted, I posted what I think appears to be the correct sequence of events. I'm not sure why you are confused?
Posted on 10/7/22 at 12:06 pm to SUB
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No...in the same post you quoted, I posted what I think appears to be the correct sequence of events. I'm not sure why you are confused?
The correct sequence of events is the Cop put that door in a position he claimed was "harm" to him.
Every negative thing about this was created by the cop.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 10/7/22 at 12:09 pm to SUB
What I make of it is the cop wasn’t thrust into some wild situation with variable that he wasn’t able to account for.
HE chose to go open a stranger’s door
HE put himself in a bad position by opening the door and standing there.
The car’s occupant very slowly backing up and touching him with that door does not grant him a license to kill that kid.
The cop deserves to rot in prison.
What do you think?
HE chose to go open a stranger’s door
HE put himself in a bad position by opening the door and standing there.
The car’s occupant very slowly backing up and touching him with that door does not grant him a license to kill that kid.
The cop deserves to rot in prison.
What do you think?
Posted on 10/7/22 at 12:11 pm to ReauxlTide222
I just hope SUB is not a cop and never intends to be.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 12:13 pm to SUB
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Just trying to get the story straight.
Be ready to be called bootlicker.
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