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re: Russia's Lavrov: If Euro Troops enter Ukraine, NATO will fight Russia Directly
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:17 am to cattus
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:17 am to cattus
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I think the best thing for everyone is for Russia and US to get a minerals deal ASAP. Trump and Putin standing together is the only thing to shut these children up.
I welcome this and it would give us a strategic partner against China.
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:19 am to lsu777
Yep...and anyone who calls us screaming for help, we demand assets in return.
fricking US East, sounds nice for France
fricking US East, sounds nice for France
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:19 am to Proximo
Nah, Asia Minor has been the most important geopolitical region in the world all the way back to the Roman's. They happen to occupy it now, and thus have control of the Black Sea, easy access to the Mediterranean, easy access to the ME and Central Asia. They have always leveraged that to their benefit, including during WWII. Their rivalry with Russia extends far further back than any other European rivalry.
In a ground war, they would perform well against the Russians by themselves. That doesn't mean NATO should be involved, but the Turkish interest in the region supercedes it's interest in NATO.
In a ground war, they would perform well against the Russians by themselves. That doesn't mean NATO should be involved, but the Turkish interest in the region supercedes it's interest in NATO.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:20 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
What is it about nuclear bombs that some of yalll don’t get. All theses leaders ar ok letting you die but they gonna all be in their underground bunkers and just die slower than us
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:20 am to Lord of the Hogs
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Macron does work for the Rothschild’s, after all.
The Rothchild's own the EU. This is their response to Trump saying the EU was created to screw over the USA.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:20 am to crazy4lsu
I’m mostly joking about the value prop but frick them for this troop nonsense
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:20 am to AggieHank86
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That is the general understanding of Article V.
even then, you dont have to send troops from my understanding of article 5. more you have to provide support
now i will say, frick russia but man frick this escalation shite now that we are trying to get this stopped
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:21 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
I got all the downvotes for saying the mention of nukes by Macron was a huge escalation.
I just wish the EU would stop buying Russian energy, or Russia would stop selling the EU energy. That would settle their asses right down. Europe and the EU are doing exactly what democrats do. If Trump advocated for curing cancer, they would promote cancer.
I just wish the EU would stop buying Russian energy, or Russia would stop selling the EU energy. That would settle their asses right down. Europe and the EU are doing exactly what democrats do. If Trump advocated for curing cancer, they would promote cancer.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:21 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
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Lavrov was asked whether Zelensky would start negotiations after the suspension of arms supplies from the US. He replied: “I can’t get into this human's head. He’s not even human.”
I'll agree with him on this.
With Putin, there's zero doubt who he is. He's a Russian nationalist, KGB thug who wants to restore the Pre-soviet-era Russian empire. His intent is clear when you look objectively and put 2+2 together.
With Zelenskyy, you don't know what to expect. He is controlled by a few dozen globalist leaders so you don't know if and when you're getting the "real" Zelenskyy, if there even is any individuality left in him. One day he's saying he wants peace and for the war to end and is ready to talk, and then one day he is trying to strong-arm the President of the United States of America with thinly veiled threats and ultimatums.
I'd rather deal with Putin because "the devil you know". He is and always has been exactly what we see. We don't know who is Zelenskyy's marionette from one moment to the next.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:22 am to AggieHank86
sorry stank but the poles have stated emphatically that there will be no polish troops deployed to muh ukraine are you some kind of an idiot?
no it would be french troops and i think we all know the effectiveness of the french army, hey maybe you could be a camp follower or as the japanese called them comfort women!
no it would be french troops and i think we all know the effectiveness of the french army, hey maybe you could be a camp follower or as the japanese called them comfort women!
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:23 am to Proximo
This was always a likely conclusion. They have been heavily involved from the beginning of the war, hosting both Ukraine and Russia for talks in April 2022, as well as suggesting that excluding Russia from other talks was a bad idea. If there is a nation which could argue that it has some degree of interest in the region outside of its NATO allegiance, it is Turkey.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:25 am to AggieHank86
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Russia: "It is perfectly acceptable for Russian troops to invade Ukraine, but unacceptable for Polish troops to help defend it."
That's not what he said.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:28 am to TigerAxeOK
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I'll agree with him on this.
With Putin, there's zero doubt who he is. He's a Russian nationalist, KGB thug who wants to restore the Pre-soviet-era Russian empire. His intent is clear when you look objectively and put 2+2 together.
With Zelenskyy, you don't know what to expect. He is controlled by a few dozen globalist leaders so you don't know if and when you're getting the "real" Zelenskyy, if there even is any individuality left in him. One day he's saying he wants peace and for the war to end and is ready to talk, and then one day he is trying to strong-arm the President of the United States of America with thinly veiled threats and ultimatums.
I'd rather deal with Putin because "the devil you know". He is and always has been exactly what we see. We don't know who is Zelenskyy's marionette from one moment to the next.
this is where i stand. frick russia and ukraine but at this point, ukraine and the globalist are worse imo
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:29 am to Gifman
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The possibility of nuclear war should weigh more heavily than what you think is fair. You have a child’s mentality.
Lefties in a nutshell.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:33 am to Gifman
quote:I summarized Lavrov's position.quote:The possibility of nuclear war should weigh more heavily than what you think is fair. You have a child’s mentality.
Russia: "It is perfectly acceptable for Russian troops to invade Ukraine, but unacceptable for Polish troops to help defend it."
Do you disagree with the summary?
Where did I voice an opinion on the "fairness" of it?
Have you always "seen" things that are not there? Have you spoken to a medical professional about this problem? It is a symptom of several severe mental health challenges.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 9:39 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:39 am to AggieHank86
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Russia: "It is perfectly acceptable for Russian troops to invade Ukraine, but unacceptable for Polish troops to help defend it."
It would make sense if Ukrainian troops attacked Russia (not just the battlefields inside Ukraine).
Yes it would be unacceptable for polish troops to move in. Doing so isnt just a decision that Poland would need to make by itself because if they do so, it would be expected that Russia might attack Poland. Thus invoking Article 5.
That is how you get another world war. One where nuclear weapons are probably used.
Hank, Do you think that Ukraine is worth losing all of humanity? I dont.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:45 am to alphaandomega
quote:I think that Russia will continue to engage in brinksmanship, until someone calls its bluff.
Hank, Do you think that Ukraine is worth losing all of humanity?
I do NOT believe that Russia would use nukes unless NATO invades Russia itself, so your premise is invalid IMO.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:51 am to LARancher1991
quote:no they won't. Why are people retarded about this? Russia is not going to nuke anybody no matter what happens, because they will also be destroyed if they do that. Britain alone could render Russia uninhabitable, even without US involvement.
And the nukes will rain.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 9:53 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:55 am to AggieHank86
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Russia: "It is perfectly acceptable for Russian troops to invade Ukraine, but unacceptable for Polish troops to help defend it."
Your lack of understanding of the concept of Cause and Effect is astounding.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:56 am to troyt37
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got all the downvotes for saying the mention of nukes by Macron was a huge escalation.
Why is it? Putin mentioned nukes a couple times now.
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