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re: Russia's Lavrov: If Euro Troops enter Ukraine, NATO will fight Russia Directly

Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:05 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38079 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:05 am to
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Turkey mobilizing troops into Ukraine (nato - direct war)
France sending nukes


frick both of these countries, turkey shouldnt be in nato anyways

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Poland bloviating they will start AND FINISH an arms race



im ok with an arms race

but frick turkey, frick france
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:06 am to
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what am i missing statement wise from poland that they would send in troops?


So in 2024, the Poles suggested that they would not rule out sending troops into Ukraine, echoing French statements. Then a few weeks ago, Donald Tusk has said that Polish troops are not going to Ukraine.

From my view, given their massive reorganization in recent years, they do not have a large amount of troops ready to deploy, which is the major issue for most European countries save for France and Turkey.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:06 am to
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unless one of the NATO countries is directly attacked. Like if Poland, Germany, and France sent troops to Ukraine and started fighting Russia that would not invoke article 5 but if Russia carried out a missile strike inside one of those countries it would. Or at least that's my understanding of it, I might be completely wrong though and just talking out my arse
That is the general understanding of Article V.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:06 am to
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frick both of these countries, turkey shouldnt be in nato anyways


What? Why?

Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18917 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:07 am to
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Russia: "It is perfectly acceptable for Russian troops to invade Ukraine, but unacceptable for Polish troops to help defend it."


The possibility of nuclear war should weigh more heavily than what you think is fair. You have a child’s mentality.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6396 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:08 am to
US just needs to walk away from all...NATO, Macron, Z, etc etc
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38079 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:08 am to
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What? Why?



why? because they do not share the same values as we do. its a sunni muslim country...frick them
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2253 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:08 am to
Yea, I know. What I was saying that if NATO troops are sent to Ukraine and start fighting Russia and that fighting is contained to just Ukraine then it would not invoke Article 5. Now is that likely to happen no Russia will probably carry out long range missile attacks inside Europe.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15719 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:09 am to
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They dislike Russia far more than they dislike Muslims.


For now
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38079 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:09 am to
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US just needs to walk away from all...NATO, Macron, Z, etc etc


yep...tell them if they want war...fine, have at it....we are out and close our bases and start immediately pulling back
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:10 am to
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why? because they do not share the same values as we do. its a sunni muslim country...frick them


They occupy the most important geopolitical region in the world. That's why they are in NATO. Without that organization, I would worry about their imperialist aims.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24214 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:10 am to
I agree. If turkey sends in troops and France moves nukes, Trump needs to withdraw us from NATO
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:10 am to
That's been the reality for a long time.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:12 am to
Our CIA probably helped rig the last polish elections tbh
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 9:13 am
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2253 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:12 am to
Turkey is only in NATO because at the height of the cold war we needed bases in the middle east. Turkey is usually against us whenever they can be and in the past has been more closely aligned with Russia than NATO.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:13 am to
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And the nukes will rain. But hey at least I might get a few days off work, but I doubt it.


Putin not going to use nukes unless people are marching on Moscow. Just more nuclear saber rattling (which they’ve repeatedly done) that’s an obvious bluff.

Besides, all mentions of troops are only for after the fighting has stopped. I.e. if there is a fight it means Russia tried to take more territory while the troops are there.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 9:16 am
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
9574 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:13 am to
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And the nukes will rain.

There will be no nukes if the US stays out of it
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:14 am to
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Turkey is usually against us whenever they can be and in the past has been more closely aligned with Russia than NATO


The only reason you can argue that is because the US wouldn't do technology transfers for Patriot missile systems. Otherwise, the Turks have the most antagonistic relationship with Russia, both historically and recently in Syria.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24214 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:16 am to
The only value turkey provides us is good gas station owners and cheap hair transplants. If they want to start nuclear war let them do it on their own
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
15951 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:16 am to
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If turkey sends in troops and France moves nukes, Trump needs to withdraw us from NATO
He needs to tell them that while they are still saber rattling.

I think the best thing for everyone is for Russia and US to get a minerals deal ASAP. Trump and Putin standing together is the only thing to shut these children up.
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