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re: Russian Black Sea Fleet commander reportedly killed in today's strike on Sevastopol HQ
Posted on 9/22/23 at 10:50 pm to trinidadtiger
Posted on 9/22/23 at 10:50 pm to trinidadtiger
quote:I’m pretty sure I know more about Russian/European history than you’ll ever know.
Its enough to broadcast to the board you are so stupid you dont know history
That’s why I asked for links. Because there aren’t any supporting the claims I questioned.
The U.S. assured Gorbachev in 1990 when Germany was reunifying that NATO would not use a reunified Germany to threaten the Warsaw Pact members. We kept that committment. The Warsaw Pact dissolved of its own accord on July 1, 1991. Almost immediately former Warsaw Pact countries started applying to NATO for membership. None of them were threatened by NATO.
The Minsk Agreement was a cease fire agreement following the Donbas separtist war in 2014. Before the ink dried on the agreement Russia, and Putin, violated its terms. The agreement became moot.
The claims made by the poster who I challenged are total bullshite.
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 10:56 pm to NYNolaguy1
All numbers from CDC
45,900 by suicide in 2020
48,184 by suicide in 2021
49,369 by suicide in 2022
Total - 143,453 - minimum of 5,453 increase
68,630 deaths by OD in 2020
106,000 OD deaths in 2021
107,081 OD deaths in 2022
Total - 281,711 - minimum 75,821 increase
606,520 Total cancer deaths 2020
608,570 total cancer deaths in 2021
609,360 Total cancer deaths in 2022
Total - 1,824,450
The avalanche of clinical data indicates that at a minimum, 6% of cancer deaths from delayed diagnosis/treatment, so there's 109,467.
So, before you get to deaths resulting from the vaccine, that's 190,741.
I guess you're right. Not millions. Almost 200k killed by their government is totally cool.
45,900 by suicide in 2020
48,184 by suicide in 2021
49,369 by suicide in 2022
Total - 143,453 - minimum of 5,453 increase
68,630 deaths by OD in 2020
106,000 OD deaths in 2021
107,081 OD deaths in 2022
Total - 281,711 - minimum 75,821 increase
606,520 Total cancer deaths 2020
608,570 total cancer deaths in 2021
609,360 Total cancer deaths in 2022
Total - 1,824,450
The avalanche of clinical data indicates that at a minimum, 6% of cancer deaths from delayed diagnosis/treatment, so there's 109,467.
So, before you get to deaths resulting from the vaccine, that's 190,741.
I guess you're right. Not millions. Almost 200k killed by their government is totally cool.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 10:57 pm to Bengalbio
quote:When it comes to this war, this board loves Communism.
Communism preserved a more traditional lifestyle in Russia.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:03 pm to BlueFalcon
quote:
I'm willing to sacrifice DC, NYC, California, Chicago, Massachusetts, Delaware, Vermont, Connecticut etc to help Ukraine
quote:
BlueFalcon
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:03 pm to udtiger
You’re actually arguing that suicides, overdose and some cancer deaths were directly caused by the U.S. government?!? 
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:11 pm to LSURussian
quote:
You’re actually arguing that suicides, overdose and some cancer deaths were directly caused by the U.S. government?!?
Did the US government lie about the origins of Covid? Yes, or no?
Did the US government lock down the US economy on response to Covid? Yes, or no?
Did the US government trample civil liberties in response to Covid? Yes, or no?
Did the US government create an environment where state and local governments closed businesses, churches, schools, etc. in response to Covid? Yes, or no?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:22 pm to Spoonbilla
quote:I mean how dare they
These stupid mofo's are going to frick around and get us all killed.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:42 pm to udtiger
Suicide, OD, cancer…do you even take yourself serious?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:48 pm to udtiger
quote:You guess he's right? The claim was that "killed millions of its own citizens" better described the US. Even allowing that everything you've posted is true, 200k (which is still less than "millions" last time I checked) is a drop in the bucket compared to the deaths caused by Stalin, alone. Not only is he absolutely right, but the post you're defending is wildly indefensible.
I guess you're right. Not millions. Almost 200k killed by their government is totally cool.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 9/23/23 at 4:48 am to udtiger
quote:
Did the US government lie about the origins of Covid? Yes, or no?
Did the US government lock down the US economy on response to Covid? Yes, or no?
Did the US government trample civil liberties in response to Covid? Yes, or no?
Did the US government create an environment where state and local governments closed businesses, churches, schools, etc. in response to Covid? Yes, or no?
There are multiple no responses in there, but let’s pretend the answer to all of those were yes. Let’s pretend every straw man you put up there is true - how does that lead to the US government killing millions of its own citizens that make the US government worse than communist Russia, Putin’s Russia, or Russia in any way.
Seriously, I want you to answer for your absurd assertions in a way that at least proves you don’t just completely talk out of your arse.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 7:34 am
Posted on 9/23/23 at 5:02 am to BlueFalcon
quote:
I'm willing to sacrifice DC, NYC, California, Chicago, Massachusetts, Delaware, Vermont, Connecticut etc to help Ukraine
I’m good with losing our strategic petrochemical areas along the gulf coast. Mainly just a bunch of dumb hicks that live down there anyway.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 5:05 am to Chief One Word
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100% the US played a huge part in the targeting or acquiring targets. Most like from a drone or some type of spy plane.
Reports I read said we had a Navy plane (think a P-8) in the vicinity that moved in close to the Russian airspace just before the missile strike.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 6:21 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:
I’m good with losing our strategic petrochemical areas along the gulf coast. Mainly just a bunch of dumb hicks that live down there anyway
Yeah...who needs areas that actually produce/make stuff?
Posted on 9/23/23 at 6:46 am to RollTide1987
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Peace is for the women....and the weak. Empires are forged by war.
Yet you type this on your couch.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 6:54 am to Espritdescorps
Bingo. This guy gets it!!!
“Umm no? We told them we wouldnt extend our bullshite one inch past east Germany. Here we are 16 additions to NATO since then. Now tack on the direct violation of the Minsk agreement by Ukraine and here we are. New flash, we (NATO, the US, Ukraine) are actually the aggressors.”
“Umm no? We told them we wouldnt extend our bullshite one inch past east Germany. Here we are 16 additions to NATO since then. Now tack on the direct violation of the Minsk agreement by Ukraine and here we are. New flash, we (NATO, the US, Ukraine) are actually the aggressors.”
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:46 am to Damone
quote:
PWND
Didn’t know you were a girl
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:58 am to BlueFalcon
quote:
I'm willing to sacrifice DC, NYC, California, Chicago, Massachusetts, Delaware, Vermont, Connecticut etc to help Ukraine
I'll bet you're pro life.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:21 pm to JackieTreehorn
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They should drop a Moab on Kiev.
Putin says "hold my beer"
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