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re: Russia may soon start providing missiles to Venezuela

Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4629 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

Well I can't wait for the intellectual consistency and the rhetoric that we have to stop out of fears of WW3, now, like what we saw with Ukraine.


What we're seeing is a direct response to the US getting involved in Ukraine. Otherwise, Russia wouldn't be involving themselves in this.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:53 pm to
So get me up to speed on this, I’m apparently behind on this. Given the tone here I take it this thing is a foregone conclusion? Essentially in the works? Irrefutable evidence?
Posted by Milk
central
Member since May 2010
1277 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Honestly curious - where in the Monroe Doctorine does it greenlight tampering in some Eastern European shithole that 75% of Americans can’t find on a map?


To be fair 75% of Americans couldn’t accurately label Vermont, New Hampshire and Connecticut on a map.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4629 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

So get me up to speed on this, I’m apparently behind on this. Given the tone here I take it this thing is a foregone conclusion? Essentially in the works? Irrefutable evidence?


I don't know but there are statements in the OP that suggest it may be a problem. To the extent that it is, we have only ourselves to blame. The danger of our involvement in Ukraine has been patently obvious from the beginning.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467164 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

What we're seeing is a direct response to the US getting involved in Ukraine. Otherwise, Russia wouldn't be involving themselves in this.


That is EXACTLY the talking point Putin wants you to circulate as his NPC/sheep/puppet.

Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
22448 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:22 pm to
Well according to,the Monroe Doctrine Russia and Venezuela would be toast
Posted by TigerRealtor
Member since Sep 2013
253 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

The question is, would they consider doing this had we not been providing arms to Ukraine?


1. Russia invaded a sovereign nation and we were right to send aid.
2. Russia can’t even keep their own army supplied, I doubt they’ll send anything of real substance
3. Even if they do, half of their shite doesn’t work.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 5:27 pm
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25195 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:25 pm to
Yea.. I am right like always. Have you not seen the amount of drugs they have produced and snuck into our country? Have you not seen the amount of gang members they have let out of their prisons to relocate here? Have you not seen the results of the past 3 election cycles? Not just president but for House and senate elections? All 100% Venezuela - Oh and not to mention, they are basically killing and starving their innocent population - Not a big deal at all though
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
8945 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:28 pm to
They’ll never make it there.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23656 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:29 pm to
quote:


I think Russia has a good argument based on our providing Ukraine with weapons



Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23656 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

1. Russia invaded a sovereign nation and we were right to send aid.


Posted by UncleLogger
Freetown
Member since Jan 2008
3128 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:36 pm to
Not ideal.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467164 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

Have you not seen the amount of drugs they have produced and snuck into our country?

What's the data on their % of the total?

Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92831 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Just another reason that we have no business meddling in Ukraine.


Fify
Posted by TigerRealtor
Member since Sep 2013
253 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:14 pm to
I mean, that’s an interesting meme I suppose. Where did I say we should be bombing anyone? I’m not for the charade in Venezuela or any other offensive actions we’re involved in currently.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35797 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Fify

I’d prefer we have no military involvement in either place.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2446 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:39 pm to
Who cares.....this would only be an issue if we were at war with Venezuela. We are not. If they shoot at our ships with these missiles, we will be.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10422 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

Bad policy nonetheless. Somehow we haven't learned that these countries wouldn't be cozying up to our enemies if we weren't meddling in their internal affairs all the time.


China isn't trying to cozy up to SA countries because we meddle.

Do you really think communist Venezuela would choose to be friends with the US over communist China if only we didn't meddle?
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23656 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:56 pm to
quote:


I’m not for the charade in Venezuela or any other offensive actions we’re involved in currently.


Good for you.



Yet FWIW, the war in the hinterlands of Eastern Europe is itself a charade.



Posted by whereishobson
Member since Dec 2012
399 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by WeeWee 11/4/25 at 3:40 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:
If we can meddle in a country next door to Russia, we can't cry they are supporting an ally who we are trying to depose.


Monroe Doctrine says that we can. The largest and second largest air forces in the world says that we can. 11 aircraft carriers says that we can.


If any missiles or weapons seem to our hemisphere should be met with missilea to the receiving country and the sending country. Blow em the hell up!
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