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re: Russia Calling Up One Million Reservists Now. War Imminent.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:12 pm to kingbob
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:12 pm to kingbob
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Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia are all NATO nations. So, if the Russians go beyond The Ukraine, it suddenly becomes very much so our problem.
Those collective security agreements are great, right up and until individual nations choose not to honor them…situationally.
If Russia times this right, near the end of the Olympics, China rolls on Taiwan as the lights go out on the closing ceremonies. I doubt the neophytes in the Biden* Administration have even gamed this out. We’ll do nothing.
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:13 pm to OchoDedos
It’s a bluff until it isn’t.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:16 pm to FlySaint
Honoring them is just as problematic as not doing so. See WW1.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:23 pm to Huey Lewis
Huey Lewis
Better watch out coming after Obama for his debate line. That fat moderator bitch Candy will be all over your arse. She’ll make you want a new drug.
Better watch out coming after Obama for his debate line. That fat moderator bitch Candy will be all over your arse. She’ll make you want a new drug.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:24 pm to BigB123
I spent 9 years out of 30 in uniform in NATO assignments. Over and over again it was very clear that each country will weigh their own unique risk/reward balance on each occasion that NATO action is triggered under the collective security agreements. No way Germany, Italy, Greece, etc go to war with Russia over Ukraine, or any of the Baltic states.
Now Russia rolls on Poland or Eastern Europe, they may act, only because they’d be next. But in that case NATO win. Trust me, Russia has gamed this out.
Now Russia rolls on Poland or Eastern Europe, they may act, only because they’d be next. But in that case NATO win. Trust me, Russia has gamed this out.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:25 pm to DreauxB2015
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Very weird all this Russia mess starting up right when the Biden Administration is walking off a cliff don't you think ?
Wag the dog
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:41 pm to Catchfalaya
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One Million reservists also means that Russia may have more than Ukraine on their mind. Possibly Lativia, Lithuania, Estonia could all be invaded as well. Collectively re-establishing the Soviet Union.
I've been saying this. Vladimir's putting the band back together while the opposition is still preoccupied with choosing from the hundreds of genders.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:41 pm to FlySaint
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Trust me, Russia has gamed this out.
Absolutely. The west is hyper focused on covid and social issues, and the progressives in power have a general disposition of appeasement for foreign policy as opposed to force, and the Biden administration is a mess.
Putin sees this as a rare opportunity to secure his interest. He’s going to move before republicans retake congress and the white house.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:53 pm to BobBoucher
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Putin sees this as a rare opportunity to secure his interest. He’s going to move before republicans retake congress and the white house.
I still have difficulty seeing why Putin would want to invade and occupy the Ukraine. I could see annexation of the Donbas region but much of Ukraine is not full of Russians. The Ukraine is also a basket case economically. What do they gain by invasion?
I have read that NATO is considering actions which may cross Russian red lines. Maybe I could see an invasion to force recognition of Russian red lines and the fact that the Russians will respond if lines crossed. But even that doesn't make a lot of sense except as an in and out operation. Invasion and re-integration of the Ukraine back into Russia doesn't seem to add up. Who knows.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:01 pm to Catchfalaya
Yep, this will be an ugly war. A lot of elderly, women, and children are going to die.
This would not have happened if Donald J. Trump was our President.
This would not have happened if Donald J. Trump was our President.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:03 pm to Tigers2010a
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I still have difficulty seeing why Putin would want to invade and occupy the Ukraine.
It’s a combination of his belief that it’s fundamentally part of Russia, and the fact that the west WILL influence Ukraine and take it in to NATO eventually.
That’s a national security threat to a Russia. One they must move to eliminate. They will not tolerate NATO on their border. And as I pointed out, this is the time.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:05 pm to OchoDedos
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It's a bluff.
Yep. It's either a bluff or a continued psyop by the see eye A to further prep their false flag.
Russia isn't prepared for a full scale war. Putin is not that stupid. The guy is the former head of the Russian KGB... they deal in subterfuge, espionage and subjugation, not direct warfare.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:20 pm to TBoy
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Right wingers love and warship Putin and hate America.
Didn’t your dear leader just hand Putin a pipeline?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:27 pm to Catchfalaya
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What’s sad about all of this is Joe Biden is primarily to blame
Biden is a sack of shite and will get our Country in a war!
And he should not be in the position he is in. He was installed , not elected!
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:28 pm to BobBoucher
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They will not tolerate NATO on their border. And as I pointed out, this is the time.
NATO is already on their border in Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia. Ukraine could be the final straw.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:32 pm to Tigers2010a
Yes they tolerate that because those countries are not a military threat in the slightest. I think each one of those countries only has one air base. Russia could crush all of them in one hour, and completely decapitate their command n control. Ukraine is a bigger quagmire especially if the west starts rapidly arming the Ukrainian military.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:36 pm to Catchfalaya
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This is a bit alarming.
This understated opening made me laugh out loud.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:41 pm to TBoy
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Right wingers love and warship Putin and hate America.
Another perfect example of a liberal blaming the other side of exactly what they are guilty of….
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:42 pm to Catchfalaya
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Ukraine is a bigger quagmire especially if the west starts rapidly arming the Ukrainian military.
The West has been rearming the Ukrainian military for some time now and with top quality weapons and equipment. Much better than what they had in 2014.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:44 pm to Catchfalaya
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especially if the west starts rapidly arming the Ukrainian military.
Have you seen some of the videos of the Ukranianian militias and what kind of Gucci gear they’re running? They aren’t buying that shite from Bass Pro
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