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re: Russia appears receptive to latest offer from US

Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:40 am to
Posted by chew4219
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:40 am to
To be fair, horse is fricking delicious.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14223 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:40 am to
Putin would be very happy to take everything up to and including the Moravian Gate.


He only HAD TO HAVE crimea and a land bridge to it right now. Frankly I think he paid a crazy arse price for that. This is what I always thought he was after. The zhaporizha power plant and some ree/lithium deposits are the gravy and maybe why he thinks it was worth the expended lives and material.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37972 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:48 am to
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Putin would be very happy to take everything up to and including the Moravian Gate.


He only HAD TO HAVE crimea and a land bridge to it right now. Frankly I think he paid a crazy arse price for that. This is what I always thought he was after. The zhaporizha power plant and some ree/lithium deposits are the gravy and maybe why he thinks it was worth the expended lives and material.

The people of Russia certainly paid a very steep price.

I wish the "news" would accurately portray everything that has happened over there. Millions of lives, gone. But mankind will always mankind. It is what it is.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134872 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:21 pm to
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Zalushny was doing Vogue pics recently
Who??
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:24 pm to
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De facto recognition of occupied territories by "freezing" the issue for 49–99 years;


That's going to be extremely difficult to get the Ukrainians to agree to.

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Lifting most sanctions imposed on Russia;



Nah. They need to give up more for sanctions relief.

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Eventual return to importing Russian gas and oil;



Nah. See above.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29198 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:28 pm to
Putin and Zelensky both need to be hanged.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6265 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:33 pm to
He can’t keep getting away with it!


Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134872 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:34 pm to
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Russia appears receptive to latest offer from US
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80824 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Someone please locate, hog-tie and ball-gag Miss Lindsey!


Make sure that someone is a woman or he might enjoy it too much.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14223 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:46 pm to
Even if they are faking, they are atleast faking harder than they were a week ago ??
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16400 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:52 pm to
Putin was supposed to end the war because he scared of trump

Guess not
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
2214 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:52 pm to
Summer offensive has failed.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89018 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:01 pm to
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Someone please locate, hog-tie and ball-gag Miss Lindsey!


You’re threatening him with a good time.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:03 pm to
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Putin is buying time
He hasn't lost nearly enough in this war




And this is a Western map.



And if a peace deal is not made Odesa is next to fall as Russia squeezes it from Transnistria and Kherson. Then Ukraine's access to the Black Sea is totally cut off.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:05 pm to
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Surprised they are open to this since it's been Russia's man sticking point this whole time.

If this ends up happening (big if) then it would show Putin was full of shite the whole time
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26618 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:07 pm to
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The little actor/dictator will never agree.


This. Its bound to happen all over again.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:15 pm to
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Surprised they are open to this since it's been Russia's man sticking point this whole time.


If this ends up happening (big if) then it would show Putin was full of shite the whole time


To make the search easier I used Grok and allowing Ukraine to join NATO is still a no-go according to Grok's research of Putin's list of conditions for a peace deal:

1. Territorial Concessions
2. Ukrainian Neutrality and NATO Membership Ban
3. Demilitarization of Ukraine
4. Cultural and Political Changes
5. Sanctions Relief
6. No Reparations and Restoration of Ties
7. Recognition of Russian-Speaking Population Rights
8. Ceasefire Conditions


Here is the source for number 2.: Exclusive: Putin's demands for peace include an end to NATO enlargement, sources say
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7242 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:16 pm to
This gives Russia time to restock and invade again. A cycle that keeps repeating itself.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:19 pm to
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This gives Russia time to restock and invade again. A cycle that keeps repeating itself.


It's a cycle that started with the Khazars in the 8th century.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26476 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:21 pm to
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Before the invasion happened and when the Russians were merely staging along strategic points on the Ukraine border, there was a percentage of us that said the ultimate end to this would be Russia annexing roughly the Eastern third of Ukraine...



And yet the majority of people in those areas are Ukrainians not Russians with the exception of Crimea. The Russians deported most of the non-Russians from Crimea.

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