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re: Rubio with a message for the new Never Trump / Iran / leftist coalition
Posted on 3/26/26 at 2:33 pm to AUCom96
Posted on 3/26/26 at 2:33 pm to AUCom96
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If the actions of Iran - under attack from two nations - are to be weighed as the sign of future nuclear attack, apply that same logic to the United States.
You are willfully ignoring 47 years of terrorism and attacks on our troops. This conflict didn't start 4 weeks ago.
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Think we're going to run around nuking people?
No, but we aren't led by an Islamic death cult. That's a huge difference all of you are refusing to acknowledge.
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Has Iran spent the last several decades blowing an entire part of the world to shite for no tangible reason?
Yes. They have been funding terrorism all over the ME for decades. Are you just not aware of this fact or just don't want to accept it?
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:23 pm to jbdawgs03
Bump
Posted on 3/26/26 at 4:15 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
They don’t care it’s all about OMB for them
Posted on 3/26/26 at 4:17 pm to jbdawgs03
Marco is aiming for being 48. The moment the midterms are done, he’s going to start distancing himself subtly from POTUS.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 4:22 pm to KCT
He would not be a bad choice at all. Is he a natural born citizen?
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:07 am to Indefatigable
Doubt it. He’ll need Trump to get that done
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:26 am to KCT
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There are plenty of people here who need to watch this and ACTUALLY LISTEN AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT.
But they won't because OMB...
Screw 'em...
Posted on 3/27/26 at 8:15 am to PNW_TigerSaint
Trump keeps pounding points and is obviously much more effective with his manner. But I would much rather have someone with great instincts than one with great soundbites
Posted on 3/27/26 at 8:24 am to AUCom96
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to be weighed as the sign of future nuclear attack, apply that same logic to the United States. Think we're going to run around nuking people? Has Iran spent the last several decades blowing an entire part of the world to shite for no tangible reason?
Wait... what? Lol. Are fricking serious? Did you not listen to what he said? Rubio is spot on.
Does the US brainwash women and children in a death cult then strap bombs to em, send them into busses, cafes, markets and blow themselves up?
All to kill others that they view as satan!
There's something wrong with your brain.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 8:48 am to lake chuck fan
He didn’t listen. Just OMB!
Posted on 3/27/26 at 8:57 am to jbdawgs03
They ARE religious fanatics. He’s totally correct on that point. Then we murdered their Ayatollah. Now they’re MORE fanatical. Great idea, Bibi.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:06 am to jbdawgs03
So the war is about regime change then Marco?
Im trying to keep the logic straight.
If so is that goal still going to be pursued when its clear that air attacks alone cannot achieve it and the strait is closed triggering a global oil supply disaster?
Is that goal worth sending in US ground forces?
What happens when we attack those islands with ground forces and Iran begins blowing up the desalinization plants in our partner states (UAE, SA, etc) triggering massive water supply issues?
What happens if we take those islands and the regime still doesn't fall?
Intelligent people can recognize that an outcome that absent cost is positive (removing a hostile group of psychopathic mullahs) may not be worth the cost that would need to be paid to achieve it (ground invasion of Iran).
Its the reason why although I could buy a Ferrari I don't do it because there are better things to allocate my resources to relative to the cost to acquire it despite Ferraris being really nice cars.
Does Marco understand the cost/benefit ratio here? I dont think he does here or we would've never gotten into this situation in the first place.
Im trying to keep the logic straight.
If so is that goal still going to be pursued when its clear that air attacks alone cannot achieve it and the strait is closed triggering a global oil supply disaster?
Is that goal worth sending in US ground forces?
What happens when we attack those islands with ground forces and Iran begins blowing up the desalinization plants in our partner states (UAE, SA, etc) triggering massive water supply issues?
What happens if we take those islands and the regime still doesn't fall?
Intelligent people can recognize that an outcome that absent cost is positive (removing a hostile group of psychopathic mullahs) may not be worth the cost that would need to be paid to achieve it (ground invasion of Iran).
Its the reason why although I could buy a Ferrari I don't do it because there are better things to allocate my resources to relative to the cost to acquire it despite Ferraris being really nice cars.
Does Marco understand the cost/benefit ratio here? I dont think he does here or we would've never gotten into this situation in the first place.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:08 am to Pettifogger
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But I'm hoping we're not coming to a point where the reality is: - Leave Iran neutered but with sufficient IRGC/regime structure that it'll be a true roll of the dice whether or not the people of Iran mount any resistance to its rebuilding; or - Decide this is the closest we'll ever be, can't finish the job without assets on the ground I don't give much weight to the nuclear threat, but I think reasonable people can conclude there was merit enough for intervention. What continues to concern me is whether things we expected (from our intel and Israel's) to have happened by now are not happening, and how well we planned for that contingency.
That’s exactly what is happening. Two weeks ago, people scoffed at the idea that we didn’t have a good plan to either prevent the closing of the strait or to reopen it.
Turns out there was a plan, and it was to use the closing of the strait as justification for ground troops.
Was that Trump’s idea? Maybe not, but I bet Bibi knew it would happen.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:11 am to theballguy
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Most of these people have no interest in understanding anything as long as OMB is in office.
Their TDS is crippling them and they don't care.
You're avoiding the argument by hiding behind TDS. I dont have TDS. I support 90% of what Trump ran on and 70% of what hes doing right now (against Iran, against Epstein policy, etc)
I have "show me how we achieve any worthwhile goals in this conflict without fighting an open ground war with a 2M man army in mountainous and urban settings" syndrome.
This is not a war that is worth the cost to achieve what we're being told we're trying to achieve and without an offramp we're going to destroy all the potential that was given to the MAGA movement (or whatever that was previously) in 2024 including the coalition that won that election.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:21 am to Earnest_P
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That’s exactly what is happening. Two weeks ago, people scoffed at the idea that we didn’t have a good plan to either prevent the closing of the strait or to reopen it.
Turns out there was a plan, and it was to use the closing of the strait as justification for ground troops.
Was that Trump’s idea? Maybe not, but I bet Bibi knew it would happen.
Exactly and miss Lyndsay too.
Im sure most people here know the "islands" we're preparing to invade apparently have underground bunkers, a city of 60k and have been militarily prepared for years to defend against an attack from the sea?
Or that 2/3s of Irans military installations are focused on the strait of hormuz meaning they can defend in depth anything we try to do in that area, not to mention that their missiles are capable of hitting ships in that channel even if we were to somehow sweep them from the area directly on the strait?
And I'd point out that if the Iranians are underground and the invasion force is on the surface the mullahs who are monsters who dont care about civilian casualties can lob missiles or artillery at will at the islands when we land because it wont negatively impact their military resistance locally.
How the F are 2k ground troops going to handle clearing out underground bunkers and urban warfare? They aren't. That's why Nancy Mace was so disgusted the other day: they're preparing to send in much larger groups when that smaller initial force runs into trouble. I shared articles weeks ago explaining that they were mobilizing the MEU and the 82nd AB had been taken off exercises for deployment and here we are. I'm telling you today they're prepping larger forces for what comes next if they walk the invasion path.
The way you win a war in Iran is not to fight it, but its not too late to walk away claiming we only wanted to take out key leadership and will do it again if they continue to refine uranium, etc.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:28 am to Pettifogger
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I don't give much weight to the nuclear threat, but I think reasonable people can conclude there was merit enough for intervention.
Well hell leave a drone strike team and a squadron of F35s and tell Mossad to let us know when they have leadership targets for us and we can continue to play whack a mole with the mullahs while we send everyone else home, but understand that people who are being hunted will absolutely target Israel with a nuke if they get their hands on that material. The threat within the region will be very real that way and will have escalated rather than have declined as a result of this intervention.
But absent ground invasion the mullahs arent going away and by that I dont mean a couple AB units, I mean sending Abrams tanks and 100k+ Americans into Iran on the ground to clean them out.
And the juice simply isnt worth the squeeze with that scenario so unless you think Iran is such a threat that they need to just be nuked we need to find an offramp and GTFO and on to more pressing issues for the American public.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:29 am to jbdawgs03
Sounds like 2003
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:48 am to tide06
I think he understands it better than you do
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:52 am to jbdawgs03
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I think he understands it better than you do
Yet neither he nor you have answered or addressed any of the issues or strategic concerns with our current course of actions with regard to Iran. Strange.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:42 pm to Timeoday
Really?
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