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re: Roseanne's tweets may have been politically incorrect, but they were not racist

Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:28 pm to
Of course it wasn't racist. It may have been a little offensive but it wasn't even close to being racist.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:36 pm to
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I'm just starting a conversation.



I mean that's fine. I think she invited those connotations herself. It might not have been meant as racist, but the historical association is something only the very stupid don't seem to know about.

Again, the context is important. Yes it is unfair but this is the society that we've created. To undo those associations, or to make them milder, we would have to undergo a lot of racial healing that the country isn't ready for.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
82099 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:37 pm to
I maintain that Usher looks exactly like Curious George. Because he totally fricking does.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34134 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:39 pm to
So if Roseanne would've called ValJar a Lizard Person, you would've been cool with that?

Because historical context is what's important, not definitions or intent?
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:41 pm to
Roseanne's biggest mistake was forgetting that Trumpkins are not the only ones seeing her tweets. Of course they loved it as evidenced by a thread earlier today before she got fired. But there's a big diverse country out there that's not gonna have it.

She also evidently forgot that saying bigoted things and getting away with it is only reserved for Trump, not his followers.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:41 pm to
I don't care one way or the other about what Roseanne does. I'm simply saying she invited those racist connotations herself.

And comparing VJ to a lizard would have made her seem like a complete insane person. But there wouldn't be the same type of uproar. You know that too.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37604 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:43 pm to
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Of course it wasn't racist.

There's no way to know for sure if she intended it to be racist. I do know that if I walked into a bar full of black people and said "it looks Planet of the Apes in here" that I wouldn't be surprised by the reaction. I'm not sure how Roseanne could grow up in this country and not know how her comment would be received. Whether you think that's right or wrong it's the reality we live in and she'd have to be incredibly oblivious and stupid to not know that.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:43 pm to
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Bjorn Cyborg
What part of "she's called black women apes before on Twitter" do you refuse to fricking accept?

She knew exactly what she was doing
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3780 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:46 pm to
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She also evidently forgot that saying bigoted things and getting away with it is only reserved for Trump, not his followers.


Well said. Sadness tonight all across trumplandia

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162915 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:50 pm to
shut it Toddy. you love this because you despise Roseanne because she is a Trump supporter.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:58 pm to
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shut it Toddy. you love this because you despise Roseanne because she is a Trump supporter.


I DGAF about Roseanne one way or the other. I DO think it's funny she thought she could get away with such blatant bigotry. She's not Trump, only a Trumpkin.

I just wonder when Trump is going to tweet/ show support for Roseanne comparing a black woman to an ape. You know he's chomping at the bit, because his base will eat it up.

Trashy. Ah, living in the Age of Trump
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126632 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 7:12 pm to
You should do a social experiment around town telling black people they look like apes.

Report back with the results
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6829 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 7:23 pm to
I had no idea she was black, and I’d doubt Roseanne did, either.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34134 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 7:50 pm to
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You should do a social experiment around town telling black people they look like apes.

Report back with the results


What a moronic statement. I’ll assume you didn’t read my post. I said it was rude and she deserved to get fired.

I can ask for an accurate portrayal of her actual words without defending her.

There are lots of things you shouldn’t go around saying to people that are not racist.



Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29353 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 7:56 pm to
C'mon, man, what she said was racist and vile. You know it. I know it. She knows it. We all know it.

Let's not play stupid semantics games like the libs do. What she said cannot be defended.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34134 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:18 pm to
Rude, for sure.

The definition of vile is “morally bad; wicked”

I don’t think it meets that bar.

Racist? Definite not.
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:23 pm to
False. So extremely false. It was absolutely racist and she deserves to have her show cancelled.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162915 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116771 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:17 am to
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but they were not racist


There are 1,000s of words that are racist and the number grows every year. For example, 8 months ago I learned that the word 'merit' is racist. Two months ago I learned that the term 'per capita' is racist.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162915 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:29 am to
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