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re: Roll Call: Conservative but Not Religious
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:26 pm to Dex Morgan
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:26 pm to Dex Morgan
Hard conservative atheist here. Religion is a crutch.
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Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:30 pm to armsdealer
quote:I don't think you understand. I support fiscal conservatism, but I don't think that's the most important issue in our country today. The left has been destroying our country through moral decay, and have been indoctrinating children into a worldview that doesn't even have a care about economics or taxes. We need to be fighting a moral battle, because that's what the left is doing right now.
And this idiot is why we don't have a fiscally conservative party today.
The left have been waging a moral war and winning because the conservatives are too afraid to push back out of fear of being called racists, sexist, homophobic, etc. The left has run on moralism: woke culture is a moral issue; trans rights are a moral issue; abortion is a moral issue. It goes on. They aren't just saying that they prefer these things: they are saying you are immoral if you don't side with them on these issues.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:35 pm to Dex Morgan
I’m a conservative Christian, and believe that what was written almost 2 millennia ago was the word of God. I believe that religion, all religion is a construct of man, and has therefore been made evil and corrupt.
I carry a deep and abiding faith in God and His Son Jesus. I do my best to adhere to the parts of the Bible that my tiny brain can comprehend.
I carry a deep and abiding faith in God and His Son Jesus. I do my best to adhere to the parts of the Bible that my tiny brain can comprehend.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:37 pm to FooManChoo
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I don't think you understand. I support fiscal conservatism, but I don't think that's the most important issue in our country today. The left has been destroying our country through moral decay, and have been indoctrinating children into a worldview that doesn't even have a care about economics or taxes. We need to be fighting a moral battle, because that's what the left is doing right now.
The left have been waging a moral war and winning because the conservatives are too afraid to push back out of fear of being called racists, sexist, homophobic, etc. The left has run on moralism: woke culture is a moral issue; trans rights are a moral issue; abortion is a moral issue. It goes on. They aren't just saying that they prefer these things: they are saying you are immoral if you don't side with them on these issues.
No disagreement but nothing stopping me from calling them a freak and telling them to F off. Let them know their kind just won't be catered to any longer and mean it. That gets the message across nicely. No need to bring religion into it. That muddies the waters. The worst things Reagan did was close the mental asylums. That's where these freaks of nature belong.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:38 pm to Dex Morgan
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And then you have Christians who have pretty much replaced God with Jesus.
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I believe in God
It’s pretty obvious that you simply believe in the existence of God, but reject the sacrifice of his one and only begotten son.
If you were to die right now, you have no sacrifice to atone for your sins and you would go to hell.
Sin cannot go unpunished, so you either need a savior to blot out your sins, or you will have to pay for them for an eternity separated from God.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:42 pm to Dex Morgan
What does religious mean? There is Jesus then everything else. I’m not religious. I follow Jesus.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:43 pm to Dex Morgan
Conservative atheist here
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:43 pm to Big Chipper
What is your basis?
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:50 pm to Flats
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So do Muslims who stone their little sisters when they get knocked up. "Good" means that there's a standard. What's yours? What's it based on?
For one, not causing anyone harm, especially in the name of religion
It’s so crazy to me that everyone’s religion or sect of Christianity, each one think theirs is the right way and everyone else is wrong.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:52 pm to Lawyered
And so many Christians living and breathing by the KJV of the Bible. They obviously know nothing about the lifestyle of King James and those who he chose to translate the Bible. Lol
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:53 pm to Lawyered
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It’s so crazy to me that everyone’s religion or sect of Christianity, each one think theirs is the right way and everyone else is wrong.
Good reason for wars.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:54 pm to Lawyered
quote:Where'd you get that standard from? Sounds quite arbitrary to me.
For one, not causing anyone harm, especially in the name of religion
quote:This is a universal truth: everyone thinks that what they believe is true. No one actually believes something as true that they actually believe is false. That would be irrational.
It’s so crazy to me that everyone’s religion or sect of Christianity, each one think theirs is the right way and everyone else is wrong.
Everyone has presuppositions and axioms about the world that govern how they interpret reality. That's true for the atheist as much as it is for the Christian.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:55 pm to FooManChoo
I am glad your religious practices work for you. If I fall short in my walk with God, then I guess you can gleefully celebrate my eternal punishment. Thanks for the judgments, I'm sure they were just your way of "helping each other to grow in maturity in the faith"
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:59 pm to Dex Morgan
In. Wasn’t raised with religion. Obviously believe in God, but can’t reconcile innocent people and children suffering. I also can’t jive with churches and all the money and corruption. I just try to be a good human.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:05 pm to Lawyered
quote:Good thing that only happens in Christianity... and every other conceivable aspect of human existence.
It’s so crazy to me that everyone’s religion or sect of Christianity, each one think theirs is the right way and everyone else is wrong.
Your definition of "harm" is not the same as everyone else's, yet here you are declaring your definition of "good" as though your POV is not just simple, but accurate. It's not. Is it "good" to kill a person if his organs can save eight people's lives? Is it "good" to kill a cow to feed people? Is it "good" to go watch a football game when you could be reading to the blind?
You're fooling yourself into thinking there is a clear definition of "good". And I could ask a billion atheists and get a billion different lines drawn between "good" and "evil".
"Religion" is, according to most, the same word as "law". They both mean "binding." We have laws, and every rational adult agrees we need laws. If people are left to their own personal moral code, we have chaos. If we chose our own laws as individuals, we would be destroyed. When people choose their own morality as individuals, they are destroyed.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:05 pm to WTHisgoingon
quote:It's not a matter of what "works", but what is true, based on God's revelation.
I am glad your religious practices work for you.
quote:Why would I celebrate such a thing? I want everyone to be saved and don't want any to be damned. Jesus said He is the way, the truth, and the life, and that it's only through Him that any can come to the Father. That's a very narrow path, and it would be cruel of me to let anyone think they are "good" when they aren't (if they aren't).
If I fall short in my walk with God, then I guess you can gleefully celebrate my eternal punishment. Thanks for the judgments, I'm sure they were just your way of "helping each other to grow in maturity in the faith"
I'm not trying to judge anyone; only God can judge the souls of men. What I'm trying to do is proclaim the truth.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:06 pm to Dex Morgan
Even if you don’t believe in the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit....live by the ways of the Bible, one should be fine.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:09 pm to Da Sheik
quote:That's like being a vegan and binging on bacon every meal.
Even if you don’t believe in the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit....live by the ways of the Bible, one should be fine.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:12 pm to Dex Morgan
Registered Independent
Vote Republican
Haven't been to a service in years
Vote Republican
Haven't been to a service in years
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:08 pm to Lawyered
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each one think theirs is the right way
Don’t you think what you’re doing is the right way?
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