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RFK Jr on vaccines and the low autism rates in the Amish community
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:14 am
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:14 am
I was thinking about this a few weeks ago after seeing a recent trend of parents posting videos rushing their infants to the ER with high fevers after getting a round of vaccines. I also used to think Jenny McCarthy was crazy for blaming the vaccines on her son's autism but I recall her saying how she saw the change immediately. Her kid went from normal and happy to autistic overnight she claimed after running a high fever due to a round of vaccines.
I almost made a thread asking why the Amish and (for those of you in DeRidder) the Mennonites seem to have a lower rate of autism.
I can't find it but there was a chart a while back showing the number of vaccines infants get these days vs the past 40+ years and the trend of rising autism.
Is it the vaccines or has autism been reclassified to include those even slightly on the spectrum and it is more easily diagnosed due to awareness, technology, etc?
Perhaps the rates in the Amish and Mennonites are so low because those even slightly on the spectrum aren't diagnosed and counted properly. The Amish especially seem to stay away from modern medicine. Not so much the Mennonites as they are a bit more accepting of modern cultural conveniences.
Thoughts?
I almost made a thread asking why the Amish and (for those of you in DeRidder) the Mennonites seem to have a lower rate of autism.
I can't find it but there was a chart a while back showing the number of vaccines infants get these days vs the past 40+ years and the trend of rising autism.
Is it the vaccines or has autism been reclassified to include those even slightly on the spectrum and it is more easily diagnosed due to awareness, technology, etc?
Perhaps the rates in the Amish and Mennonites are so low because those even slightly on the spectrum aren't diagnosed and counted properly. The Amish especially seem to stay away from modern medicine. Not so much the Mennonites as they are a bit more accepting of modern cultural conveniences.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:16 am to stout
There is pretty good scientific evidence that there is no statistically significant correlation between vaccines and autism. But, I would suggest that with any science, it should be revisited to confirm.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:17 am to stout
I dont see any issues with what he says and hes probably right
Hes not anti vax hes anti mass vax
Isnt like 70 shots now before the age of 8 vs the 4 we all got?
Hes not anti vax hes anti mass vax
Isnt like 70 shots now before the age of 8 vs the 4 we all got?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:19 am to stout
It may not be vaccines but clearly something in the modern lifestyle is causing this huge explosion of autism and most of these other once rare health problems.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:21 am to SDVTiger
He also says vaccines are not the main cause. I would like to hear him explain that train of thought further.
Is he saying there are kids who maybe had underlying issues but were normal and the vaccines and fevers caused their undeveloped brains to delay development leading to autism?
Is he saying there are kids who maybe had underlying issues but were normal and the vaccines and fevers caused their undeveloped brains to delay development leading to autism?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:23 am to stout
They look pretty damn autistic to me.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:24 am to PhilMianus
Maybe slow from generations of inbreeding but not autistic
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:25 am to FreddieMac
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There is pretty good scientific evidence that there is no statistically significant correlation between vaccines and autism.
This is true. The only time a study even purported a link the study was found to have serious flaws.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:25 am to stout
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Is he saying there are kids who maybe had underlying issues but were normal and the vaccines and fevers caused their undeveloped brains to delay development leading to autism?
Isnt this what they are claiming the Rona vax is doing.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:25 am to stout
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autism been reclassified to include those even slightly on the spectrum and it is more easily diagnosed due to awareness, technology, etc?
This.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:26 am to oklahogjr
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The only time a study even purported a link the study was found to have serious flaws.
IIRC, "serious flaws" is euphemistic and I think the guy engaged in straight up, global warming-esque, fraud.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Do you really think it's that simple?
I think that is some of the reason but I don't see how the trend keeps rising every decade. At some point, we would have to see a sort of plateau as advances and classifications slow down.
I think that is some of the reason but I don't see how the trend keeps rising every decade. At some point, we would have to see a sort of plateau as advances and classifications slow down.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:27 am to stout
There is evidence that autism can be caused by proteins causing inflamation on the brain...
Vaccines can cause inflamation...Councidence?
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children with ASD have higher levels of inflammatory markers, such as C-reactive protein (CRP) and interleukin-6 (IL-6), in their blood compared to typically
Vaccines can cause inflamation...Councidence?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:28 am to stout
There’s a higher rate of autism in kids from parents with advanced degrees. Probably a genetic component just like there’s a better chance of being a white nfl running back if your dad played for the broncos and your mom was a track athlete.
Some of the autism traits can help a person be a high achiever. A touch of the tism is probably a good thing. The ability to focus on a single thing for hours…. Obviously taken to the extreme is detrimental.
Some of the autism traits can help a person be a high achiever. A touch of the tism is probably a good thing. The ability to focus on a single thing for hours…. Obviously taken to the extreme is detrimental.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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IIRC, "serious flaws" is euphemistic and I think the guy engaged in straight up, global warming-esque, fraud.
That is correct. It was not even like a there's some truth it was straight BS. I believe the scientist ended up losing his medical license due to falsifying info.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:32 am to stout
Personally I think the stuff that is allowed in our food and our generally poor food choices are the biggest issues though vaccine concerns I also believe have merit.
Americans have been conditioned to believe they need this pill/vaccine to be healthy instead of you need to be very cognizant of what goes in your body on a daily basis to be healthy.
Americans have been conditioned to believe they need this pill/vaccine to be healthy instead of you need to be very cognizant of what goes in your body on a daily basis to be healthy.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 8:33 am
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:35 am to SDVTiger
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Isnt this what they are claiming the Rona vax is doing.
The second round of the rona vax gave my mom, my great uncle, and my great aunt all a high fever. My mom drove them and they all went together to get it. The fever was so bad my mom was considering going to the ER but eventually recovered. My mom and aunt recovered but my uncle had a stroke. I still say the vax killed him. He was 85 so no one questioned him having a stroke but he was a healthy 85 and we are supposed to assume the fever and timing were a coincidence.
Yes the rona vax causes major fevers. What those fevers and vaccines do to infants is the question I guess RFK Jr is asking.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:35 am to stout
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Do you really think it's that simple?
If there are environmental factors in play, it's highly unlikely it's vaccines.
You put a gun to my head and ask for a random explanation, it's plastics.
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but I don't see how the trend keeps rising every decade.
The circle of what's on the spectrum increases every few years, it never gets smaller, and the definitions of what disorders are on the spectrum expand every DSM.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:36 am to PhilMianus
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They look pretty damn autistic to me.
I would bet everyone of those men would work circles around you and in raw problem solving they would also out perform you and most other citified people.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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IIRC, "serious flaws" is euphemistic and I think the guy engaged in straight up, global warming-esque, fraud.
Or maybe people also wanted to keep him quiet. Remember how the early detractors of Covid response were treated.
Like I said earlier though, I strongly believe that all the terrible foods Americans consume are probably the biggest culprit.
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