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re: Reuters: Republican leader McConnell says another coronavirus bill is coming

Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:53 pm to
Also, my very limited macro finance brain has always comforted myself regarding the US debt situation with the principle of “if you owe the bank $1 million, they own you, but if you owe the bank $1 billion then you own them.” Coupled with the most dominant military force ever, am I an idiot in thinking we should not look at national debt like consumer debt where the bigger the number the worse it it but rather in relative terms to the rest of the world and their capacity to call said debt in without triggering economic mutually assured destruction due to the intertwining of the world economy ?

Thanks, I’ll hang up and listen. Don’t let them run you off.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:54 pm to
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This won't have any effect on inflation.


Just replace how you measure it with the value of fidget spinners and third generation iPads and you’re set.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:56 pm to
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Mitch McConnell said on Friday the U.S. Congress will work on another coronavirus relief bill, with healthcare topping the list of priorities


I heard the president say another Bill was coming and it would involve infrastructure. This is really starting to piss me off.
This is no time for more extra spending.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5854 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:56 pm to
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What’s your take on all of this? Mostly the impact on the markets long- term


Short and sweet because I'm drunk after sleeping ~2-3 hours a night during March to today.

I think the depth of this downtown will be shocking to everyone.

The duration I have no insight into, talk to an epidemiologist.

The Fed, Treasury, and Govt have done shockingly well so far. The $350bn SBA loan program will be milked in a month.

The $454bn lending program can be levered "10x" by the Fed to $4.5tn. That 10x number Mnuchin and Powell keep saying is fake. They can bring it to 100x if they want to. But the problem is the amount of collateral to buy.

I think we're already past Sep-Oct of 2008 in 2 weeks if March. I think we're now in the Nov-Mar slow bleed, but it'll turn faster.

Long term... I have a lot of expectations but I'll need to be sober for that.

At this point - the Fed has fixed the financial plumbing, credit markets are finding their bottom, and equities are a little ways off.
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3922 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:59 pm to
There are two more coming. 1-3 were relief bills. 4 and 5 will be recovery. Will possibly be a 6th if needed.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31554 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:00 pm to
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I'm hoping it's the home mortgage forgiveness act.

But only if you make less than $75k and meet certain demographic requirements.

Because successful people still have to pay their bills and get penalized when they don’t.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5854 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:00 pm to
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There are two more coming. 1-3 were relief bills. 4 and 5 will be recovery. Will possibly be a 6th if needed.

See. This guy/girl should post more.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:02 pm to
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Plus, we've only increased the debt like 10% with this virus stuff. If an "avalanche" was your worry, you're pretty late to the party.
More like 20% and counting, not to mention the economic dropoff will add a few trillion. Trump is going to get us to $30 trillion before his first term is over.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5854 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:02 pm to
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am I an idiot in thinking we should not look at national debt like consumer debt where the bigger the number the worse it it but rather in relative terms to the rest of the world and their capacity to call said debt in without triggering economic mutually assured destruction due to the intertwining of the world economy ?

Your thoughts are 100% correct. Its monopoly money.

Bonds that are bought by central banks that don't require reserves are fake numbers on a screen.

Edit: US Treasury bonds that are bought by foreign governments or monetary funds are the safest reserves they own
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:04 pm to
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*posted from my iPhone
And if Princess Slack Jaw Pelosi has her way with the new bill:

*posted from my Obamaphone2
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:07 pm to
Samsung
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20515 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:08 pm to
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I'm hoping it's the home mortgage forgiveness act.



Will that also apply to my HELOC? Do I get to wipe out the current debt and start borrowing again?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11959 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:14 pm to
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Explain in any manner using data post the 1970s in any developed market and not some ridiculous academic textbook why it will.


Is it weird that the guy asking for non academic data on inflation post 1970 also uses the academic definition of inflation?
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29264 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:15 pm to
money machine go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5854 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:20 pm to
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 it weird that the guy asking for non academic data on inflation post 1970 also uses the academic definition of inflation?


quote:

wutangfinancial

Not only do I respect the cognitive dissonance call out but I respect the username in which is was conducted.

Point sir
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5854 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:22 pm to
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boosiebadazz

Alright man I'm going to take my next 3 month break from TD amd sleep to get back to work.

But good seeing a username I recognize from the Russian, Doc, Wiki days. Take care bro
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:23 pm to
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Samsung
I'm just joshin wit u
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:28 pm to
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More like 20% and counting, not to mention the economic dropoff will add a few trillion. Trump is going to get us to $30 trillion before his first term is over.


I love this game. Prior to Corona what specifically should he have cut to reduce debt?

Guaranteed you’ve dodged this question multiple times even as a progressive.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11959 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:29 pm to
I always respect condescending douchebags that project. Enjoy your nap. Kisses.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51709 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:31 pm to
Is this the one that Nancy and Biden told the Dems they'd have their chance to add in all of their crap that has nothing to do with coronavirus?

Prepare for a political crapshow.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 6:32 pm
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