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re: Response from my Human Resources Department

Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

OP is under no obligation to explain his beliefs to them.
If the employer explains it presents an undue hardship, he absolutely is.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

OP is under no obligation to explain his beliefs to them.
This is my initial thought. There is nothing I have been able to find in the Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964
that indicates I have to make a defense of my faith or practice.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

undue hardship
I work from home. All of my work is remote.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

...I simply suggested you tell the truth regarding your fetal tissue cell concerns.
I outlined at length what my concerns were. Multiple points. They focused on only one aspect of them.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61324 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:58 pm to
Just tell them you'll vote democrat forever if they give you an exemption.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

I would reply with...

"Are you denying my religious exemption request, or is this a continuous interrogation about my closely held beliefs"



This is the correct answer. Is this the fricking Spanish Inquisition or what?
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:00 pm to
Aren't they violating your right to privacy by asking you that question?
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6469 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:00 pm to
You don't owe then a response

Repeat that you have a sincere religious belief.

They aren't looking for clarification. They are looking to use something against you.

Repeat your previous Title VII claim. That's it.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21832 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:00 pm to
We are only responsible for what we know. You’ve never knowingly taken medicine that meets that criteria nor will you in the future.

That’s standard DoD bullshite but I’m not surprised. Tell them you need a beard for your religious beliefs or that you’re really a woman and they just roll over. This has become a disgusting political power play and senior leadership has shredded what little credibility they had by pretending to consider these waivers.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:01 pm to
As Snow Patrol says,

“Just say yes”
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2300 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:02 pm to
They sent you a blog post, which contains the opinion of a Catholic priest. He is not speaking with any kind of religious authority, especially if you didn't claim your Catholic beliefs as your religious accommodation.

If you never said anything about Catholicism, turn this around on HR and ask why they are assuming the opinion of a Catholic priest means anything to you?


Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30340 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

I am working on my response. Would appreciate insights and advice from those on this board.

quote:

quote:

Do you attest that you also abstain from all of the listed medications from the above paragraph based on your religious beliefs?"


Keep it simple.

Yes.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Member since Sep 2011
25582 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

I work from home. All of my work is remote.I work from home. All of my work is remote.
Fair. It'll be more difficult for them to claim undue hardship, but still be easier for them to deny it unless you have some rock-solid proof. Just saying if you're going to try and arbitrarily beat the system, be prepared.

Are you going to sue if they deny it?
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13070 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:04 pm to
Do you abstain? That’s a simple question or do you pick and choose how your religion affects your medicine
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5621 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

if an individual's behaviors are consistent with their beliefs
oh sorry my religion says that won't happen because we're sinners
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50604 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

If the employer explains it presents an undue hardship, he absolutely is.


Nope, still is not. If an undue hardship is created, their recourse is to release him because reasonable accomodations cannot be made. Interrogating him is not part of that process.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50604 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Do you abstain? That’s a simple question or do you pick and choose how your religion affects your medicine


The list of medicines is a lie.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25727 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:05 pm to
a simple "mind your own fricking business, hypocrite" should suffice.
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64432 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

They aren't looking for clarification. They are looking to use something against you.

Repeat your previous Title VII claim. That's it.


Best path JMO
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30340 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Are you denying my religious exemption request, or is this a continuous interrogation about my closely held beliefs

Now this is much better.

That would make HR shite their pants and move on.
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