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Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:48 pm
So, as I have indicated in a previous post, I am a recent government contractor (less than three months) who has requested an accommodation based on sincerely held religious beliefs as protected under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S. Code § 2000e).

After submitting my request for accommodation this is their response to me (which covered a myriad of concerns, only one of which was the fetal tissue issue);

"One of the criteria for determining a religious accommodation is if an individual's behaviors are consistent with their beliefs. This article LINK lists medications (with medical references) which used the HEK-293 cell line for testing in their development in the same way as the Covid 19 vaccines.

Do you attest that you also abstain from all of the listed medications from the above paragraph based on your religious beliefs?"


I am working on my response. Would appreciate insights and advice from those on this board.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:50 pm to
Just be honest and tell them you use those drugs and the aborted fetal cell excuse is just convenient for this particular Covid shot you really don’t want to take
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44843 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:50 pm to
They sent you a blog post. Holy fricking shite.
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5590 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Would appreciate insights and advice from those on this board.


I’m getting older but I learned a long time ago to just tell the truth in all situations. Saves a bunch of heartache
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4429 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:50 pm to
I would just respond with "Yes".
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
2762 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:51 pm to
Is it tested or produced using fetal cell lines? That would be a big distinction to know concerning the vac.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80149 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:52 pm to
This is the Jay Inslee model.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48947 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:52 pm to
I would reply with...

"Are you denying my religious exemption request, or is this a continuous interrogation about my closely held beliefs"
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

aborted fetal cell excuse is just convenient
As I indicated in my OP (and you failed to read - not surprised) that was one of many issues i raised to them.

You can fault me for many things in life, honesty and integrity is not one of them.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50491 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Just be honest and tell them you use those drugs and the aborted fetal cell excuse is just convenient for this particular Covid shot you really don’t want to take


The list of other medications is a lie.
Posted by CaptainPanic
18.44311,-64.764021
Member since Sep 2011
25582 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:53 pm to
The Religious exemptions are going to be tough to prove. There basically has to be proof in the actual teachings of your religion that it goes against all vaccines.

So you better hope you've never been vaccinated for anything in your life.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95480 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:53 pm to
TESTING drugs using stem cells is a little different from DEVELOPING drugs using stem cells.

Aspirin predates WWI because part of the Treaty of Versailles involved Bayer turning over the patent on it to help pay Germany’s indemnity.

We didn’t have stem cell lines when this shite was discovered, developed, and first sold.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

They sent you a blog post.
Correct. From an organization that is sympathetic to the government position.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50491 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Are you denying my religious exemption request, or is this a continuous interrogation about my closely held beliefs


Good response. OP is under no obligation to explain his beliefs to them.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

As I indicated in my OP (and you failed to read - not surprised) that was one of many issues i raised to them.


I read your OP. You asked specifically about the list of medicines. Even gave their response.

So that’s what I responded to. You didn’t even tell us what your other reasons were so there’s no way I could respond to those.

And since I know your character and integrity are above reproach, I simply suggested you tell the truth regarding your fetal tissue cell concerns.
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 1:56 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50491 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

The Religious exemptions are going to be tough to prove. There basically has to be proof in the actual teachings of your religion that it goes against all vaccines.


This is not true.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:55 pm to
Respond with:

“Yes. Have some.”
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71430 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:55 pm to
Well they have used the aborted fetal tissue forever.

I have donor stem cells in me, previous surgery, but I’m not getting the shot.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Is it tested or produced using fetal cell lines?
not really either but testing is closest. shouldn't matter bc it's satanic no matter what.
Posted by LazloHollyfeld
Steam Tunnel at UNC-G
Member since Apr 2009
1601 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:55 pm to
Respond: "Sure do, go frick yourself. Thanks."
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