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re: Respect for Marriage Act passed by Senate. Goes to House for final vote.

Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1013 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:37 pm to
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One of the big fears of James Madison when he wrote the Bill of Rights would be that the masses would believe that if it is not listed specifically in the Constitution that they would believe that right does not exist.
... and then, there was Amendment Ten.


I guess you forgot the bolded part of the amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1013 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:40 pm to
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You keep using this term like it means something.

Because it does.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135504 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:42 pm to
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Would it be unconstitutional for a state to pass a law that could arrest you for having sex with another consenting adult?
No?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295801 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:43 pm to
Should first cousins be allowed to marry?
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1013 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:43 pm to
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Because you believe does not make it so.

Just like everything you believe doesn't make it so.

Should cousins marry? Because many states don't allow first cousins to marry.

Yes.
Posted by PollyDawg
Member since Jul 2021
1103 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:45 pm to
They are fools.

Not that long ago, the Defense of Marriage Act was passed.

What happened to that one?

Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1013 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Would it be unconstitutional for a state to pass a law that could arrest you for having sex with another consenting adult?
No?

FFS. OK, how about that occurs in your own bedroom?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Should first cousins be allowed to marry?
Bad analogy.

The question is whether first cousins who legally married in Alabama (where they may do so) must be recognized as married in Arizona (where they may not.

Yes.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26897 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:46 pm to
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Because it does.


What does it mean? You were just shown states that recognize different ages for being able to make this particular decision. Is it 18? Oops, not if you want to buy beer. How old does a teen have to be to get an abortion?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26897 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:47 pm to
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No?


Clearly they violated The Book of Secular that must exist.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125327 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:48 pm to
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None of those are outlawing marriage itself.


You’re so close….
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295801 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:49 pm to
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Bad analogy
. Np one cares what a social outcast thinks.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135504 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:49 pm to
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Should first cousins be allowed to marry?
Bad analogy.

The SSM bill, the one not yet finalized, addresses legality of SSM.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:51 pm to
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Not that long ago, the Defense of Marriage Act was passed.

What happened to that one?


This repeals DOMA
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:51 pm to
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AggieHank86

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I read you post, and must ask one question … are you high?


I've edited my post for the sake of errors and context. Despite the errors and your dismissive arrogance, you should still understand my post (unless you're truly that terrified to respond.)

By the way, Hank -- Why is your very first posture in avoiding defending your posts a response of either, "You are angry." OR "Are you high"?

Citing "anger" or "intoxication" or "gibberish" of your opponents --besides your your usual pretentious legal bullet points -- won't help your credibility OR defense of this euphemistically named bullsh*t [Qweer] 'Marriage Act' bill, Sweetie.

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Most of your posts are incomprehensible gibberish.


Maybe...

Sometimes we see what we want to see and rationalize truth as "gibberish."

But then again most of *your* posts are in defense of sodomists and their kinks, aren't they? Which also means, in defense of adult men who dress up as women *as* they read stories to children; As well as on crusading on behalf of the Mentally Ill to practice and spread their "gender dysphoria" afflictions and assault on the most innocent.

You're welcome to give your defense of this particular 'Marriage Act' a shot, Sport. Whatchoo got? (other than requires States to officially humor / respect the legality of multi/inter-homo, inter-species, "Marriage"?)
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295801 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Sometimes we see what we want to see and rationalize truth as "gibberish."


If he can't find a legal cite, it's gibberish to him.

Everyone else understands.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:52 pm to
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The SSM bill, the one not yet finalized, addresses legality of SSM.
Which has no bearing upon cousin marriage.

Are you asking about a SSM between Alabama first cousins who move to a state which bans cousin marriage?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:55 pm to
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You're welcome to give your defense of this particular 'Marriage Act' a shot, Sport. Whatchoo got?
Full Faith and Credit clause. Article IV, Section 1.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1023 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:56 pm to
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Supreme Court Justices along with the Current Chief Justice would disagree with you.


Roberts dissented in the Obergefell decision. Indeed, the likely reason for the bill is to create a statutory (not constitutional) right because the fear is that the majority of the current justices may not find that right in the Constitution

They might find that the recognition of a marriage is a full faith and credit issue, but that is what the statute is codifying
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:58 pm to
In other words, they are not making the Roe/Dobbs mistake again.
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