re: Republicans need to rethink abortion

"Righteousness exalts a nation, But sin is a reproach to any people."

You reap what you sow. Americas BIG problem is its unfaithfulness to the one true God. Know this though. God will not be mocked. I truly believe that judgment is at the door step.

But there is hope:

"If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land."

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ow about we teach values and morales

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abortion

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DOES NOT COMPUTE

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(1) abortion is a state right

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Which is EXACTLY what the Dobbs ruling holds. Dobbs doesn't ban the practice. It simply holds there is no constitutional right to an abortion.

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(2) government shouldn't have a say in abortion

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Even though I think the practice is despicable, abortion is not, nor will ever be an issue that drives my political leanings. I just think there are far too many more important issues that take precedence.

That said, if you feel the aborting of a fetus is the taking of a human life then it is hard to make a distinction between abortion and murder...which no one denies government should have a say in (unless you think murder should also be legal). The only distinction between the two is if the abortion is necessary to save the life of the mother, which is akin to a "self-defense" argument in the killing of another. Thus, while I don't consider myself to be pro-life or pro-choice, I understand the all or nothing fervor of those who are pro-choice.

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(1) abortion is a state right

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Right, which exactly where we are back to after more than a half century. But Dems have convinced their entire base and some conservatives that "the supreme court overturned a constitutional right". Which is not true.

These women want abortions need to take it up with their statehouses and not put in terrible senators over the issue...

It was worth it. The abortion issue will settle down when the drama queen pro-death crowd realize their states can still allow it.

What other lives should the government have no say in protecting? How ‘bout dem darkies? Should we go back to counting them as 2/3 a person?

This is an absolute absurd way of thinking. Abortion is a modern Holocaust that too many people seem to want to ignore.

Without the pro-life groups the Republican Party would have died before Reagan. Just like abolition was highly unpopular yet the Republican Party carried the mantle because it was the correct moral stance, abortion should remain important to the republicans.

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Killing a new born baby = extremely heinous crime Aborting a late term baby = woman’s choice and ok

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This is absolutely garbage. In 99% Late term abortions (after 30 weeks) the mother planned to keep the child but had a terrible decision to make due to the health of either her or the baby. It’s not as cut & dry as you try to make it

Republicans at the very least need to dramatically improve their messaging on the issue. Invoking religious reasons doesn’t work when the people you’re arguing with don’t have the same beliefs.

The messaging of their being little difference between aborting a viable fetus and murdering a new born baby is much more compelling to a non-religious person. Not all of them, but enough to move the needle on the debate.

Making first trimester abortions illegal with no exceptions for rape and incest is a losing stance, full stop. Same with health of the mother.

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Republicans need to rethink slavery

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was said once upon a time as well

Even if you take God out of the discussion, one cannot deny that brain activity and a heartbeat is a life with potential and “aborting” a child that is viable outside the womb under normal circumstances is murder. To believe otherwise is barbaric, irrespective.