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Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:40 am to TejasHorn
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Agree with all of that.
Of course you do. Why don't we ever see threads about the great legacies of democrat presidents?
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:42 am to IMSA_Fan
Why did you add S&P numbers to only the D side? Did all the R presidents crash them out or something??
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:47 am to IMSA_Fan
quote:Half right. Trump's deficits aren't because of tax cuts. They have been because of massive increases in spending.
Trump (2017–21, 2025–) — A two-term tour de force. Act one: a $1.9T tax cut that ballooned the deficit during a *growing* economy
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:52 am to PaperTiger
Reagan 1st (1981–1985): ~135 to ~180 = +33%
Reagan 2nd (1985–1989): ~180 to ~285 = +58%
H.W. Bush (1989–1993): ~285 to ~435 = +51%
Clinton 1st (1993–1997): ~435 to ~786 = +81%
Clinton 2nd (1997–2001): ~786 to ~1,342 = +71%
W. Bush 1st (2001–2005): ~1,342 to ~1,181 = -12%
W. Bush 2nd (2005–2009): ~1,181 to ~805 = -32%
Obama 1st (2009–2013): ~805 to ~1,500 = +85%
Obama 2nd (2013–2017): ~1,500 to ~2,271 = +51%
Trump 1st (2017–2021): ~2,271 to ~3,756 = +65%
Biden (2021–2025): ~3,756 to ~5,882 = +56%
Trump 47 (2025–present): ~5,882 to ~7,394 = +26% (partial term, about 17 months in)
Reagan 2nd (1985–1989): ~180 to ~285 = +58%
H.W. Bush (1989–1993): ~285 to ~435 = +51%
Clinton 1st (1993–1997): ~435 to ~786 = +81%
Clinton 2nd (1997–2001): ~786 to ~1,342 = +71%
W. Bush 1st (2001–2005): ~1,342 to ~1,181 = -12%
W. Bush 2nd (2005–2009): ~1,181 to ~805 = -32%
Obama 1st (2009–2013): ~805 to ~1,500 = +85%
Obama 2nd (2013–2017): ~1,500 to ~2,271 = +51%
Trump 1st (2017–2021): ~2,271 to ~3,756 = +65%
Biden (2021–2025): ~3,756 to ~5,882 = +56%
Trump 47 (2025–present): ~5,882 to ~7,394 = +26% (partial term, about 17 months in)
This post was edited on 6/20/26 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:54 am to PaperTiger
Ill help the OP.
Reagan - The S&P 500 rose about 113 percent,
Trump - The S&P 500 rose about 81 percent
Ford - The S&P 500 rose about 28 percent,
Nixon - The S&P 500 down about 20 percent,
Bush Sr - The S&P 500 rose about 28 percent,
GWB - The S&P 500 rose about 52 percent,
Reagan - The S&P 500 rose about 113 percent,
Trump - The S&P 500 rose about 81 percent
Ford - The S&P 500 rose about 28 percent,
Nixon - The S&P 500 down about 20 percent,
Bush Sr - The S&P 500 rose about 28 percent,
GWB - The S&P 500 rose about 52 percent,
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:55 am to IMSA_Fan
Grok is gave me different numbers.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:55 am to Sweep Da Leg
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A five minute search will show you that watergate was complete bullshite and a setup by the IC.
G. Gordon Liddy had a great show remembering Watergate with guests who were the federal agents investigating the break-in.
Agent: "We were led to the Democrat office rooms located in the hotel by one of their officials. We walked into one office that was a total mess with files and ash trays strewn on the floor. I said: 'well, I can see that intruders really hit this office!' The democrat official looked embarrassed and said: 'Well, no. This office stayed secure. Our workers always left it in a mess.'
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:56 am to IMSA_Fan
I always knew you were a leftard
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:58 am to IMSA_Fan
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Ran against deficits, then roughly *tripled* the national debt.
I don’t believe Republicans ever had control of congress during Reagan’s terms. Spending wasn’t all his fault. If Newt Gingrich running the show could make Clinton look good, then think what Reagan could have done with a Newt.
I miss Newt.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:59 am to IMSA_Fan
George W. Bush sold the Yanks out to pharmaceutical companies. From a financial standpoint, that was probably the nail in the coffin in their empire.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 11:19 am to IMSA_Fan
look on the bright side jethro thanks to reagan, bush, and trump people like you no longer pay income taxes.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 11:53 am to ChEgrad
quote:Congress outspent every presidential budget request (back when that was a thing) Regan produced by huge margins. Reagan even vetoed a budget. Now “republicans” just CR the last clowns budget, and add to it (slightly) less than a democrat would.
I don’t believe Republicans ever had control of congress during Reagan’s terms. Spending wasn’t all his fault.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 11:57 am to tarzana
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other than an unspoken gender bias
My mom registered to vote just to vote against Hillary.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 12:09 pm to IMSA_Fan
Now do the D’s
Posted on 6/20/26 at 12:21 pm to IMSA_Fan
Now do Democrats.
You do make a strong argument. I would argue that what Dems have done is far worse.
Stop the spending and everything will work itself out.
You do make a strong argument. I would argue that what Dems have done is far worse.
Stop the spending and everything will work itself out.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 12:55 pm to tarzana
Start with the first Republican President.
Looks like you boys prefer to still own slaves.
Looks like you boys prefer to still own slaves.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 1:03 pm to tarzana
quote:
I have no idea how either Hillary or Kamala lost
That's because you're an actual retard.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 1:10 pm to IMSA_Fan
quote:
Question for you: If Reagan was so bad as you say, why did he leave office with a 65% approval rating, win re-election nearly winning every single state, and why did his VP running on his legacy win another near landslide in 1988?
The legacies of his administration aged really poorly
Hmmm. The people of Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, the former East Germany, etc., etc., ect. probably would have a different take.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 2:05 pm to IMSA_Fan
Carter, the Iran hostage crisis that lasted over a year, the failed rescue attempt that killed eight soldiers, and terrible stagflation with sky-high inflation and interest rates. He got crushed on the economy.
Clinton, the Monica Lewinsky affair led to his impeachment, plus Whitewater investigations and other scandals like Travelgate. Administration policies attributed to Housing Crisis 2008.
Obama, IRS targeting conservative groups, Operation Fast and Furious the Benghazi attack, and massive NSA surveillance revealed by Snowden, not to mentuon spying on a US politucal party
If I have to rehash Bidens 4 years I'll probably throw up
Clinton, the Monica Lewinsky affair led to his impeachment, plus Whitewater investigations and other scandals like Travelgate. Administration policies attributed to Housing Crisis 2008.
Obama, IRS targeting conservative groups, Operation Fast and Furious the Benghazi attack, and massive NSA surveillance revealed by Snowden, not to mentuon spying on a US politucal party
If I have to rehash Bidens 4 years I'll probably throw up
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