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re: Reminder: Hussein Soetoro sent Soleimani $1.7 BILLION in taxpayer money
Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:24 pm to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:24 pm to Aubie Spr96
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It was THEIR money
Shahs money 
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:33 pm to Jbird
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So you have no answer to the question.
Well nothing of course. We have the most powerful military in the world. No one is going to force us to do anything. I suppose we could be sanctioned economically. Not sure what the legal repercussions may have been.
With all that said, the money was stolen. It was the people of Iran’s money and not ours. We never delivered on the arms as we contractually agreed to. Just because they changed gov’ts to one we didn’t like, doesn’t absolve our contractual obligations.
But, what do laws, contracts, and morals mean to us? We don’t like em. frick em. AMIRITE?!?
Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:36 pm to Aubie Spr96
It was not stolen fool.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:38 pm to Aubie Spr96
You stupid mother fricker, that $1.7 B was not "stolen".
If it was why would he send $400MM in foreign currency and 13 payments of $99,999,999.99 each in wires to avoid oversight? Shouldn't he have been able to send it all in one lump sum if it was such the right thing to do?
quisling
vichy
If it was why would he send $400MM in foreign currency and 13 payments of $99,999,999.99 each in wires to avoid oversight? Shouldn't he have been able to send it all in one lump sum if it was such the right thing to do?
quisling
vichy
Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:39 pm to Aubie Spr96
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It was the people of Iran’s money and not ours
Then why was it given to a terrorist dictator
You are a dumbfrick
Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:47 pm to bamarep
He also sent him tactical nukes.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:49 pm to cgrand
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If you are afraid of the truth then you are part of the problem
What truth? They don’t get shite after they take hostages you fricking POS
Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:18 pm to ShortyRob
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400MM of that (the currency) was return of Iranian assets. Prior to the revolution Iran paid that 400MM for fighter jets which were never delivered once the hostages were taken
It amazes me that this is considered valid.
If I pay you for a car. Some dude kills me. Moves into my house. You don't owe HIM the car AND, he's not the one out any money
A similar conversation probably happened between the French and US when France tried to get US to fight the British....
US "we are neutral, and will not fight France or Britain"
Fr "we have a treaty with the US"
US "we signed a treaty with King Louis. Y'all killed him. No more treaty."
Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:20 pm to gthog61
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You stupid mother fricker, that $1.7 B was not "stolen".
Jesus...... Do any of y’all know how to fricking read? Let’s try one more time:
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Why did the United States pay Iran?
In the 1960s and 1970s, Iran was the largest partner of the U.S. Foreign Military Sales (FMS) Program. As an Obama administration official explained earlier this year, “As part of the FMS Program, a Trust Fund was established with Iranian funds to pay U.S. contractors as work progressed on the various contracts.” In February 1979, days before the culmination of Iran’s revolution, the United States and Iran agreed to a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) that halted these payments and voided many of the remaining purchases. The MoU also called for Iran’s unexpended FMS funds to be placed in an interest-bearing account.
Later that year, after Iran’s seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and the detention of the American diplomats, the Carter administration froze all Iranian assets in the United States. The standoff was resolved nearly 15 months later, with an agreement that freed the hostages and established the Iran-U.S. Claims Tribunal to resolve the labyrinth of financial and commercial disputes that had emerged.
In 1982, Iran filed a claim with the Tribunal pertaining to the FMS Trust Fund, which Lisa Grosh, Assistant Legal Advisor at the Department of State, has described as “a multi-billion dollar breach-of-contract dispute covering 1,126 huge military sales contracts.”
Grosh stated that the two sides engaged in some 40 rounds of negotiations “at this level” over several decades. Iran ramped up efforts to adjudicate the claim in 2015, asking the Tribunal to schedule comprehensive hearings on the outstanding FMS claims and requesting a preliminary ruling. The FMS Trust Fund amounted to $600 million until the George H. W. Bush administration returned $200 million to Iran in a partial settlement in 1990.
So, in short, we owed them the money. We signed documents to pay them the money. Legally we were obligated to pay them the money. Bush made the initial down payment. Obama paid the balance. It’s OK to read. Even if it’s something you don’t like.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:23 pm to Aubie Spr96
we didnt owe a terrorist dictator You keep leaving that out to try and justify how stupid you are
Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:34 pm to SDVTiger
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You keep leaving that out to try and justify how stupid you are
At this point I have to think you’re either retarded or just willfully obtuse. I’m leaning obtuse, but I’m an optimist.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:50 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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You think we were keeping that money in a special account?
yes as a matter of fact the money was kept in a special account. An interest bearing account at that
please educate yourselves guys. This is not ancient history and is incredibly relevant even now.
for fricks sake we are about to go to war with people who have an apocalyptic death wish and y’all want to crow about tweets and fricking memes that are only serve to make people stupider than they already are
this is not a dick measuring contest. Our dick is bigger, you know it and they know it. Sometimes that doesn’t really matter
Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:51 pm to cgrand
We
Are
Not
Going
To
War
Are
Not
Going
To
War
Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:51 pm to Aubie Spr96
I figured that would be your response when you realized how stupid you are Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:55 pm to Aubie Spr96
Why was the transaction done in secret at the 11th hour before Trump was inaugurated?
Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:56 pm to cgrand
quote:That is a VERY good quote. Thx.
If you are afraid of the truth then you are part of the problem
Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:58 pm to bamarep
.....and I believe another $ 400 million on pallets of cash. Delivered by your Air Force C-130's and escorted by American Fighter Jets.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:59 pm to GeorgePaton
Actually it was a mighty C-17
Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:02 pm to cgrand
quote:PLEASE stick around. It would be nice to have another informed and intelligent voice active on this forum.
come on man.
you hold in your hands the portal to inform yourself on the multi year negotiations between Iran, the US, the EU and the UN that resulted in the JPAC. You also have access to all the inspections and reporting that are a matter of record and are on going.
yes, we retuned their money plus interest.
the reason we did that was twofold...it wasn’t ours and it was required by international law.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:06 pm to davyjones
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1979 hostages
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