re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation

That sounds less like “he got one doctrine wrong” and more like he’s blending together multiple systems that do not naturally fit together. For example, saying UFO disclosure will supposedly “disprove eternal security” is not really an argument from Scripture. That sounds more like speculative theology mixed with eschatology and personal interpretation.

And on the forgiveness point, Scripture absolutely warns believers against persistent unrepentant sin, but saying “believers who fail to amend their ways will not be forgiven in this life or the next” is a much stronger claim than the text itself usually makes in the passages people debate over eternal security.

Likewise, taking condemnations aimed at Pharisees and directly inserting modern Protestants into the text as the primary target is a huge interpretive leap. You can make applications across time, sure, but application is not the same thing as original audience and meaning.

If that is in fact what he said, that absolutely is not what the Catholic Church teaches. It’s also an incorrect exegesis.

Again, you may not like it, but Jude not only quotes from Enoch, but considers him a prophet. If the biblical authors consider him a prophet, quote his works, and it is included in the canon of one of the most ancient Christian churches, it's safe to say that the early Christians considered Enoch to be inspired.

I mean, for fricks sake, Genesis tells you that he never died and was just taken into heaven.

We're going to continue to disagree, which actually proves my point.


Hope the are nice though.

Jude quoting Enoch does not automatically make the entire Book of Enoch inspired Scripture any more than Paul quoting pagan poets in Acts 17 and Titus 1 makes those poets inspired prophets. Biblical authors quote true statements from non inspired sources all the time. The question is not “was a line quoted?” The question is “did the Church receive the book itself as canon?” And historically, most of Christianity did not.

Even many early Fathers who found Enoch interesting or useful still distinguished between “helpful” and “inspired Scripture.” Those are not the same category.

As for Enoch himself being called a prophet, of course he was. Genesis literally presents him as a righteous man who walked with God. But a real prophet existing does not mean every later book attributed to him is automatically inspired and canonical… Especially since the scholarly evidence strongly suggests 1 Enoch was not actually written by the historical Enoch from Genesis. Most scholars date its composition somewhere between roughly the 3rd century BC and 1st century BC, thousands of years after Enoch would have lived. It is widely regarded as a composite work written by multiple authors over time.

So the argument cannot simply be… “Enoch was a prophet, therefore the Book of Enoch is inspired.” That does not track.

Otherwise every ancient pseudepigraphal work attached to Moses, Isaiah, Peter, Thomas, or other biblical figures would also have to be treated as Scripture… Finally, Ethiopia preserving Enoch proves Ethiopia preserved Enoch. It does not prove the universal early Church canonized it.

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We're going to continue to disagree, which actually proves my point.

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In other words, you can't.

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You can't.

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Exactly. Because we lack the true contextual meaning as written.

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A Charismatic pastor apologized Wednesday after a Republican congressman disputed his claim

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I’m shocked

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The atheist types accepted a long time ago that any extraterrestrial life would disprove God.

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It wouldn't disprove "God"it would make people realivaluate their understanding of God. Im a Christian, but I recognize that at the end of the day every religion is a cult. Each has their hardliners who are convinced beyond rationality that their belief is the one belief and seek to convince or condem all who dont prescribe to their exact interpretation.
Christians, Muslims, jews, Buddhist, ancient Greeks, Romans,Egyptians, Norse, exc exc exc. At the end of the day one will be proven right, maybe a combo of all of the above, maybe none.
We each have a choice what to believe in life.
The absolute that we know better than one or the other is beyond absurd. It's also ridiculously arrogant that with our simple minds we could even grasp the concept of what "God" would really be.
Live a good life, dont do harm to others, honor and respect your family. At the end of the day. That should be enough for any diety.
I have friends that dont believe any of it. Had multiple conversations about how they think it just ends. While I dont buy into it it's a concept to consider.
Ehat jf it doesn't exist?
What if your religion is the wrong one?
All you can do is believe what you believe, make it to the end, and hope for the best.

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All of pieces of biblical prophecy puzzle falling into place.

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Ezekiel 30:9 In that day shall messengers go forth from me in ships to make the careless Ethiopians afraid, and great pain shall come upon them, as in the day of Egypt; for, lo, it cometh.