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re: Regarding cartels, why is it relevant that the Mexican President is Jewish?

Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:33 am to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:33 am to
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You are missing a whole swath of Israel haters.


Israel is a specific country and not a comment on Jewish people, generally


I try to point this out all the time to no avail.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:33 am to
Think about it generationally and culturally for them. Going back before both World Wars, in Eastern Europe especially. Jews were subject to periodic pogroms in places like Russia. So that radicalized them against the czars and the power structure. Yeah, they saw themselves as victims because.....they were victims. So if capitalists were supporting the czar and the czar supports the capitalist, both were the enemy.

So many major played key rolls on the Bolshevik side in the Russian Revolution....even Israelis like Begin and Shamir were leftists
Posted by oldhickory1812
nashville
Member since Nov 2020
457 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:33 am to
In Ukraine the job was done by the tv program "servant of the people" and complete media control. Kolomoisky installed Zelensky.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:34 am to
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Israel is a specific thing

General comments, hatred, support of Jewish people is something else.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:35 am to
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If it was against Israel and not the people, why tear down the posters of missing Jews after the attack?

Heightened emotions = people act irrationally.


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Why the campaign to deny what happened there until the videos were released?

Because that's what happens in war when atrocities were committed. Israel does the same shite when they do bad things to Palestinians.

I'm pro-Israel in response to October 7, FWIW. I would have been attacked just the same. That doesn't remove my unemotional rationality from analyzing the situation.

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What about that specific statement do you disagree with?

I already gave the response.

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There is a reason that things have to be contorted in idiotic fashion (like dgnx6 did on page 1) to make the left look like the real Jew haters

Anti-Jewish sentiment is much more commonly associated with more conservative socio-political groups and conspiracy theorists (there is a larger overlap of those 2 groups today than ever before, post-Q and 2020).


Jews are the original "they". Outside of very specific populations (Israel typically, orthodox in the US, etc.) being Jewish is being associated with every fashion of left-out group du jour. Marxist, globalist, international banking cartels, Rothschilds, etc.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:37 am to
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Think about it generationally and culturally for them. Going back before both World Wars, in Eastern Europe especially. Jews were subject to periodic pogroms in places like Russia. So that radicalized them against the czars and the power structure. Yeah, they saw themselves as victims because.....they were victims. So if capitalists were supporting the czar and the czar supports the capitalist, both were the enemy.


Oh yea, I agree with all of this but we live in a very different world and if anything, Jews are overly represented in places of power.

I think many cling to past grievances and use them for weapons. I dislike that tactic very much.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476881 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:37 am to
I know you and Bunk are much more critical of Israel than I am, too. I'm typically pro-Israel given their opposition

Doesn't mean that I will devolve to such silliness just b/c people more aligned with my position have. Of course, that's "contrarian"
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:37 am to
Here’s something more specific for your question. Article is from Mexico, and I translated a portion of it. Keep in mind somehow Sheinbaum made it out alive when like 30 other candidates were assassinated.

LINK

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Since 2000, the security areas of the federal government have detected movements of the Israeli mafia in Mexico with organized crime in various money laundering and arms sales activities.

Only between 2000 and 2010 were intense operations recorded for the Beltrán Leyva Cartel, to which the Israeli mafia supplied high-powered weapons and laundered illicit profits, according to intelligence reports from the last administration.

After the death of Arturo Beltrán Leyva, El Barbas, in December 2009, and the offensive that the federal government launched against Los Beltrán Leyva, the identified Israelis paused their criminal activity in the country.

Intelligence reports indicate that until 2013 there was knowledge of the movements of the Israeli mafia—mainly in the country's capital—with organized crime, whose members entered Mexican territory “legally.”

“Movements were detected between 2000 and 2010 and until 2013. Then [the Israelis] paused due to the death of Arturo Beltrán Leyva and the persecution against this group,” indicate the reports to which EL UNIVERSAL had access.

Meanwhile, the Specialized Unit for Investigation of Terrorism, Collection and Trafficking of Arms (UEITATA) of the Specialized Deputy Attorney General's Office for Investigation of Organized Crime (SEIDO) has had investigations open since 2012 into the introduction and sale of weapons in Mexico by former Mossad agents, Israel's powerful foreign intelligence agency.

In addition, the former Attorney General's Office (PGR) had information about the presence of the Israeli mafia in training camps for the criminal group Los Zetas, in the states of Tamaulipas, Veracruz and Hidalgo.

The prosecutor's office knew of the presence of members of the Basque terrorist organization ETA and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC).

The murder of Israelis Benjamín Yeshurun ??Sutchi and Alón Azulay, last week in a restaurant in Plaza Artz, in the south of the country's capital, reactivated alerts about the presence of the Israeli mafia in Mexico and its links with Mexican cartels.

The Secretary of Security and Citizen Protection (SSPC), Alfonso Durazo Montaño, said last Friday that the murdered Israelis had links to money laundering gangs in Mexico.

“They are international organizations that have links with national cells. I am not going to anticipate at this moment, but the time will come when we will share our own information. “I can say that there are links with criminal organizations in the country for money laundering,” said Durazo.

Posted by oldhickory1812
nashville
Member since Nov 2020
457 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:38 am to
Jews bring negative reactions to themselves when they act like they are special and above everybody else.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:39 am to
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The simple way to put it is that is would increase the likelihood that she would implement policies American conservatives would disagree with.


It's based on different moral principles. For example Catholics and Evangelicals are 95% aligned morally. A specific example where they differ is on subjects like divorce. But morally speaking Christians can conduct a lot of business without contracts simply based on moral code. Most Christians wouldn't start a porn website or open a whisky store and if they did they would have second thoughts about it.
Posted by oldhickory1812
nashville
Member since Nov 2020
457 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:43 am to
The "30 candidates" that were killed were not running for the presidential position, none of them were, it was a psyop to make Mexico looks worse than they are, several candidates to municipal positions were indeed killed mostly in cartel infested regions.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61201 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:43 am to
The Jewish people are not the problem. In particular it is the Sanhedrin that work to direct everything from the climate change fallacy, science, the world banking system and so much more.

They want to control everything.

In the Sanhedrin view, this world should be mostly reserved for the ”chosen people” who really suffer some Stockholm Syndrome for millennia of abuse by the space aliens they worship whom they anxiously await the return of.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:44 am to
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The "30 candidates" that were killed were not running for the presidential position, none of them were, it was a psyop to make Mexico looks worse than they are, several candidates to municipal positions were indeed killed mostly in cartel infested regions.


How many of the candidates were presidential?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476881 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:45 am to
Got another one

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Who? Ohhhh, the WEF Jew.
Posted by oldhickory1812
nashville
Member since Nov 2020
457 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:45 am to
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How many of the candidates were presidential?



Zero, none.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 7:46 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476881 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:46 am to
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The Jewish people are not the problem. In particular it is the Sanhedrin that work to direct everything from the climate change fallacy, science, the world banking system and so much more.

They want to control everything.

In the Sanhedrin view, this world should be mostly reserved for the ”chosen people” who really suffer some Stockholm Syndrome for millennia of abuse by the space aliens they worship whom they anxiously await the return of.


We are 1.5-2 pages away from Khazars entering the chat
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71145 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:47 am to
He's excusing leftist antisemitism and focusing on rightist antisemitism. Don't bow that shite brah. You are more nuanced than the dull blade known as SFP. Everyone understands the difference between Jewish people and Israel. Slow pretends that's not true in order to make some contrived point.
Posted by Scoobs
Member since Jul 2010
256 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:49 am to
Remember prior to the election, multiple candidates were executed prior to the election? Somehow she wasn’t. Makes you wonder.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16139 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:49 am to
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Israel is a specific country and not a comment on Jewish people, generally


Except amongst the unintelligent, some of them members of this board, it is. They're not aware that 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs, and that Arabs, Christians and Muslims alike serve in the Knesset. They just use Israel as a proxy for Jooos because they don't know any better.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:51 am to
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Zero, none.


Ahh thanks for that. I had never really even looked into it, and in hindsight it was a ridiculous claim that should have been obvious
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