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Red State: What's Going on Between Kevin McCarthy and Steve Scalise?

Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:03 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:03 pm
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If you watched it take 15 votes and a lot of concessions for Kevin McCarthy to become Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, you would be forgiven for thinking that his election was built on a house of cards rather than, say, a throne of skulls. What you may not expect, however, is that McCarthy’s second-in-command would be receiving the most fire from McCarthy’s allies.

But, that appears to be the case, if the morning gossip from the Hill is to be believed. Punchbowl’s morning newsletter is a fascinating, if not somewhat troubling, insight into the razor-thin Republican majority’s leadership.

McCarthy’s allies blame Scalise for the drama over the last few days. They claim Scalise’s handling — or mishandling — of a gun-rights resolution by Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.) sparked the conservative uprising.


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Here’s Scalise talking about what happened:

“There was a lot of anger being expressed. And frankly, you know … a lot of the anger they expressed was that they felt they were misled by the speaker during the negotiations in January on the speaker vote. Whatever commitments were made, they felt like he misled them, and broke promises. And they expressed that."


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None of this bodes particularly well for either man, but more for McCarthy than Scalise. McCarthy is the guy people settled for. Scalise is what could have been. That is something McCarthy knows all too well, as Scalise’s name has come up previously as an alternative to him. If McCarthy sees Scalise as a threat to his Speakership, he’s far more likely to distance himself from him and eventually try to find a replacement.

This, by the way, makes the involvement of another Louisiana Congressman, Garrett Graves, fascinating here. Graves was tapped by McCarthy to negotiate the debt ceiling deal and has received a lot of coverage for it. Scalise was pushed aside while someone from his own state was tapped to do the job. There’s something peculiar about that.

You should also know that Graves nearly opted to run for governor of Louisiana but has instead endorsed another candidate – Stephen Waguespack. A group supporting Waguespack launched an idiotic attack on the current frontrunner, the Trump-endorsed Jeff Landry, claiming that Landry (as Attorney General) is the reason crime is so high in the state. Scalise came out blasting that attack ad. Graves endorsed the guy that PAC endorses.


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There is drama afoot. But if it’s as serious as Punchbowl is making it seem, the question becomes “Who will be the last man standing?”



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Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:06 pm to
This is like reading an Auburn football insiders page on 24/7.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48923 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:07 pm to
Probably a contest to see who is the biggest GOPE piece of shite.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56514 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:07 pm to
Neither Graves nor Scalise are good for the party or the country.

That article points out their personal motivation though...which of course ignores the travesty of a bill that was passed.

Voters would be wise to vote out both of those guys.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79123 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:09 pm to
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Probably a contest to see who is the biggest GOPE piece of shite.


And both are winning
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21247 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:11 pm to
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Voters would be wise to vote out both of those guys.


Majority of voters in Scalise's district, and very likely Graves's, will not choose a Democrat over a Republican in a Congressional runoff.

So with that in mind, what GOP challenger is going to raise enough money to be able to get into the runoff? Specifically in Scalise's district.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2322 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:12 pm to
Graves sucks. He’s a RINO. Scalise nearly died fighting the communist radicals. I’ll hitch my wagon to Scalise.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25986 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:15 pm to
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Majority of voters in Scalise's district, and very likely Graves's, will not choose a Democrat over a Republican in a Congressional runoff.


if this is true then why did they elect Graves because he is really a democrat.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56514 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:17 pm to
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Majority of voters in Scalise's district, and very likely Graves's, will not choose a Democrat over a Republican in a Congressional runoff.



nor should they

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So with that in mind, what GOP challenger is going to raise enough money to be able to get into the runoff


I didn't suggest that someone would be able to raise enough money. I just pointed out that these two pieces of trash that hurt our country.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30020 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:18 pm to
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Scalise nearly died fighting the communist radicals. I’ll hitch my wagon to Scalise.


dont be anointing him conservative hero status just for being shot by some lunatic leftist

he has been nothing but a GOPe rino ever since hes been in office so he is no conservative
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56514 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:19 pm to
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Scalise nearly died fighting the communist radicals


No he didn't. He nearly died playing softball. Politically, he just pushed and signed off on a 4T spending spree for those communist radicals.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2322 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:22 pm to
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He nearly died playing softball.


Uhh, it was the Congressional Baseball team.

Irregardless, Scalise is a patriot.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56514 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:24 pm to
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Uhh, it was the Congressional Baseball team.



Uhhh, I know. He wasn't fighting communists. In fact, politically, he just recently played a major role in funding them.

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Irregardless, Scalise is a patriot.



Because he was shot? That doesn't make him a patriot.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146790 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:26 pm to
Do you live in downtown NOLA?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21247 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:29 pm to
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Do you live in downtown NOLA?


Yes.

Why?
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8757 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:31 pm to
Scalise would be a great Speaker.

Graves is absolutely a RINO.
This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:34 pm to
Known Steve for years, he is a great moderate American.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
11912 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:35 pm to
Graves is a POS and if he is backing Wagesprak for Governor don’t vote for either.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146790 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:37 pm to
Because then I want the scoop on the DeSantis campaign guru that Casey fired that is now working for Trump.

Also Tell Hillary her dumb ball caps gloating won't trend.

Bill was the better President of the 3 amigos GWBush, Obama & him. He 'got' the working class and pegged MAGA but it was a lie or ruined in DC. Hillary ruins him she is such a wretched witch.

Does Bill really peg young girls on the rooftop of the Clinton trailer library?

Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
4599 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:48 pm to
If the new congressional maps get through the courts, and it’s looking like it, Graves seat will be a toss up.
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