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re: Recent Layoff Announcements.

Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:09 am to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11083 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Novelis


Girlfriend works for them. They are also having massive corporate layoffs right now.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5104 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:12 am to
quote:

UPS is cutting 48k which is 10% of its work force.
Is that just a little trimming ?
UPS & Fed Ex are a reflection of economic activity.
Spin it however you want, but this jobs market is in free fall.


Do you have reading comprehension issues or something?

quote:

Most companies over-hired during the covid era and many are looking to cut 10% of staff or more. Not a good environment right now.


Did this not cover exactly what you just said? You're arguing with someone who generally agrees with you. Two of your examples just happened to be shitty and uninformed.

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53883 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:13 am to
quote:

They are firing American employees and are blaming it on AI instead of the real.culprit which is hiring foreigners on visas

AI = All Indians


Could be a little bit of that^^^^.

However, there's little doubt every large company is looking to AI, automation and robotics to fatten that bottom line....there's no stopping the advancement and implementation of AI, automation and robotics and that means less people will be required.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297559 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:13 am to
There is a bloodbath happening in Seattle with tech.


I guess its a good thing we paid TSMC 6 bullion directly to relocate here, the industry is obviously suffering...

This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by Dot Com
Member since Oct 2025
18 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:14 am to
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How much of that is due to Amazon rolling out its own delivery networks and relying less on UPS and FedEx?

You say that as if that just happened.

Amazon has had a massive delivery network for years now



You and your damn facts aren't welcome on the PT !

UPS laying off 48k ? It's because of Amazon
Amazon laying off 30k ? Drop in bucket
Ford laying off 11k ? They had a fire

I love this board.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125632 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:15 am to
The job marketing is obviously very soft and softening further.

This was always bound to happen when we ran out of Covid funds running through the system. And here we are.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1982 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:19 am to
quote:

How much of that is due to Amazon rolling out its own delivery networks and relying less on UPS and FedEx?


None.

Both FedEx and UPS saw their fortunes fall as the pandemic came to an end. FedEx has laid off a massive amount of people and is on the tail end of their restructuring. A lot of bloat in management was let go while they transitioned to a contractor delivery model which resulted in loss of jobs of company employed well paid drivers.

UPS likewise had a restructuring plan like Fedex (all developed when Biden was President, if that matters) that involved a lot of layoffs of management- most of that is complete.

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57986 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:19 am to
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Spin it however you want,


Irony.

You're given extra information (and some agreement) but you dodge from it to tout just the numbers while claiming others are spinning.

quote:

UPS is cutting 48k which is 10% of its work force.


UPS cut far more last year (~36k) than this year (-10k) as they continue to move back towards their pre-COVID levels.

quote:

UPS & Fed Ex are a reflection of economic activity.


Fed Ex has actually hired 10K more positions this year than last year (after two years of large cuts as post-COVID buying habits moved back a little to shopping in person, but still doing more online shopping than pre-COVID).

Don't get me wrong, the job market is a bit shaky and Unemployment has been slowly creeping up since ~2022, but your "Chicken Little'ing" is little more than bias and spin.

Patiently waiting for you to "yeah, but..." the UPS and FedEx information as you dodge to some other business(es) to continue your spin.

This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 10:45 am
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16474 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:23 am to
The professional services industry (McKinsey, EY, etc.) is hemorrhaging jobs. AI and streamlining is blamed. I’ve got friends in the industry. Profits are down. Cuts are necessary. Those not laid off will carry a mighty burden from a work load perspective, on public and private sector clients.

The economy is in really bad shape. Is this due to Trump? No. Biden? Not really.

This is 50 years in the making.

If the market corrects, we could see things not seen in 100 years IMO.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16474 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:26 am to
Truth. People cannot separate support for Trump from reality. It’s intellectually dishonest and as relativistic as the Biden Bros.

It’d be nice if people just called balls and strikes with relevant information.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297559 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:26 am to
quote:


This is 50 years in the making.



this is true but we exacerbated the issue after 2010.


"Free money" sped up our demise, did not fix it.
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6139 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:30 am to
Some of those job cuts are directly related to AI now doing the job. You want to be able to be competitive in the AI market and this is a by product of that advancement.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16474 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:31 am to
I agree. At some point, there has to be a correction. I’m not smart enough to know when, why or how, but it’s gonna happen.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297559 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:42 am to
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I’m not smart enough to know when, why or how, but it’s gonna happen.


Same here. I assume a disaster of some type but outside of that no clue.
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
3586 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 12:12 pm to
Something is amiss. Amazon just increased its CEO’s salary from 29.1 million to a little over 40 million. Average salary of an employee is a little over 37,000 a year. Tell me it’s the economy.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2913 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

Is this the booming job market/economy they keep telling us about ?


Yeah you're a n00b, buy inform the forum with pertinent news (even when real info to process) and the OP is promptly treated like a pariah.

The layoff numbers are startling. Separate and staggered at random times is one thing; The labor market is collapsing suddenly and at once as though there were a coordinated (suspicious) corporate effort afoot.

IS this really the result of AI? Or orchestrated to help facilitate societal chaos and the "reset"?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18843 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 4:59 pm to
Some real data versus cries and whining:

Native born american employment has increased nearly 2 million people so far in 2025. This fact is masked by the fact over a million of foreign born, mostly illegal have lost jobs.

Last quarter GDP up 3.8%

Capital investment will be the largest in history in the next couple of years.

Inflation is well below past years.

Bunch of sky screamers.....
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:01 pm to
This is worthy of discussion. Can we see some comparable layoff numbers from 2024, 2023?
I'm certain there were a number of companies laying off then too.

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6191 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:02 pm to
https://layoffs.fyi/

In tech its actually been a light year so far.

Its often worse.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15176 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:04 pm to
So i am guessing all 15 reporting losses too? Nope, they are printing money.
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