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re: Reading "Toxic Empathy" this morning and ran across this stat

Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:51 am to
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
2546 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:51 am to
The Taiwanese and Ukrainian do their jobs well. The other two, not so much.

And the people we do business with, are mostly old industrials guys. They don’t like dealing with women.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117347 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:03 am to
Aren’t you begging for handouts and programs?
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:06 am to
ALL the multinational oil companies are this way. Hiring and promoting DEI candidates over white males. White male managers that don’t play along end up walking the plank.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17830 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:26 am to
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And the people we do business with, are mostly old industrials guys. They don’t like dealing with women


What in the meritocracy is this? So can they do their job or not? Or are you hiring just who is liked?

If it’s just who is liked or who people rather work with, just say that and don’t pull this facade over people, as if it’s merit.

After the bs they pulled with the hires for this current administration, it became as clear as when people had been screaming this (for decades) that merit only matters if you’re not the ruling class.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
2546 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:09 am to
They cannot do the job

And the likability part does matter. If you don’t like who you work with, it makes everyone less efficient and increases burnout

Merit includes interpersonal skills, technical skills are the floor/base requirement for a job
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17830 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:43 am to
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They cannot do the job


Based on what? You’re providing no evidence here but more context about likability?

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And the likability part does matter. If you don’t like who you work with, it makes everyone less efficient and increases burnout


We’re here to get a job done, not chit chat and gossip and drink beer with our buddies. You’re exposing the exact reason why DEI is needed. Because if it’s the default do what you want, you’ll just make up arbitrary standards for who can do the job. Meanwhile the real measure is not if you can do the job, it’s who wins the popularity contest.

And people generally like to hang out with people similar to them.

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Merit includes interpersonal skills, technical skills are the floor/base requirement for a job


Is this ranked in terms of priority or not? So are these candidates not likeable and if so what do you not like about them? Or what makes them not have great interpersonal skills?

This sounds like a lot of goal post moving. One day it’s they don’t have the competency. The next day it’s they’re not likeable enough. What is it exactly? So these people can work on this items so they can make themselves more hirable. Or will you even tell us? Doesn’t sound like you want them around at all

This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 8:43 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283717 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:46 am to
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So these people can work on this items so they can make themselves more hirable.


Its truly amazing that Democrats cannot understand "merit"

We all know why. Its because you people are terrified to have to earn your keep.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
18971 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:50 am to
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I've been flat out told I couldn't be hired because I was a white guy, twice.


I was told the same thing by a recruiter who couldn’t even present me to the hiring manager even though I had the most relevant experience.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283717 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:50 am to
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I hope you sued


I dealt with the same thing at the Forest Service. Its the Federal Govt. Good luck suing them.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17830 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:55 am to
Oh please Republicans move the goal post and have different standards for different people that are based in nothing firm other than their perceived social class rankings
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
9961 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:01 am to
Any 'white' male in corporate America who isn't either looking for a way out to start own thing or dumping every penny into retirement accounts/taxable brokerage to cut down the time needed is a fool. I want out of this mess as soon as I can and I do not work for a 'woke' company. My uncle was forced out at IBM because he was a 'white male' in a high ranking position. This is only going to get worse as time goes on and that's not even taking into account AI, Robotics, Automation which many people seem to have their heads in the sand over also. Its coming and it is going to gut white collar jobs just as much as blue collar jobs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283717 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:04 am to
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Oh please Republicans move the goal post and have different standards for different people that are based in nothing firm other than their perceived social class ranking


Pure feminist fear porn

You fear merit because you lack merit. You only understand merit as applied to the NBA, not the rest of the world.

And we know why
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17830 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:09 am to
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Pure feminist fear porn You fear merit because you lack merit. You only understand merit as applied to the NBA, not the rest of the world. And we know why


Scared to actually address what I said? Merit in the NBA and sports actually works there because it has measurable entities that can be applied. In the work force you’re just pitching a popularity contest and not giving people the guidebook on how to win.


But we see who you desperately want to win all the time. Or at least think should win
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:10 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283717 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:12 am to
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Scared to actually address what I said?


There is nothing to address. You threw out the standard marxist class warfare that your own fricking party left behind years ago.

I can tell youre not a competitive person at all. You sit at the kids table.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283717 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:12 am to
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But we see who you desperately want to win all the time. Or at least think should win


Tell me.

Go for it, I gotta see this fairy fiction,
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
69389 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:14 am to
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statby StrongSafety
Maybe you’re not good enough


Like a fricking hemorrhoid
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283717 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:15 am to
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Like a fricking hemorrhoid


He's afraid of being rewarded for his own actions, because he has nothing positive to give.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61071 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:17 am to
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The overall job growth included 20,524 White workers. The other 302,570 jobs — or 94% of the headcount increase — went to people of color.
The very definition of "systemic racism".
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
8556 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:17 am to
Young White liberal parents in their 30’s & 40’s are about to have life come at them fast when their White sons are not able to get into the elite schools they want to go to & get any jobs in Corporate America.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59735 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:18 am to
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I've been flat out told I couldn't be hired because I was a white guy, twice.



You honestly should have sued.
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