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re: Read Derek Chauvin’s New Petition … And Weep For American Justice
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:57 pm to JiminyCricket
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:57 pm to JiminyCricket
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It's a criminal action in almost every case for a person to physically restrain an officer so to compare a situation where an officer is legally restraining a suspect to a suspect committing a crime by the very action of restraining an officer outlines the first nonsensical portion to your argument.
What would they have charged floyd with in your opinion?
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:02 pm to Big Scrub TX
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awhile. I can't remember exactly
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I think it was
You’re obviously an expert. Please tell us more….
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:06 pm to blueboy
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convicted not of killing Floyd but for refusing to allow paramedics to administer aid.
Never heard of that - don't believe it happened.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:06 pm to Schleynole
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What would they have charged floyd with in your opinion?
Assuming this hypothetical situation would have occurred in the state of Minnesota, state law could have charged with any of the following...
* Obstructing legal process 609.50
* Assault
* Murder
This, of course, points to another error in your line of thinking. A police officer has established protocols and policies that are to be followed when restraining suspects whereas civilians do not have the same protections nor do they have the same training. One could make an easy argument that an untrained civilians, acting outside of his/her legal authority to restrain a police officer may not apply the techniques properly and therefore injury/death resulting from their negligence in a situation that have no legal right to engage in anyway could be an additional legal hurdle for them to overcome.
Any way you try to slice it to achieve the "gotcha" you're looking for, it would be an inherent criminal action for the George Floyd/Derek Chauvin roles to be reversed.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:07 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Because he is innocent.
Why is he further down the list than random drug runners and execs?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:08 pm to JiminyCricket
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Murder
Exactly, so Chauvin should be treated the same.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:10 pm to djmed
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Because no judge wants to take on the extraordinary burden
Then any judge that refuses, must be stripped of his position. You either uphold the law, or you don't. And if you are too frightened to do what is morally and legally correct, then you are not a judge. You are someone just clinging to power and prestige without having to earn what that power and prestige affords you.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:11 pm to TrueTiger
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Plus, no one intentionally destroys their career by committing a murder in front of witnesses while being video recorded.
How was Floyd murdered?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:11 pm to Schleynole
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Exactly, so Chauvin should be treated the same.
I said they "could" charge him with murder depending, of course, on details of the case. You're still comparing a civilians actions to an officers actions and they are not the same thing at all.
Let's say you are driving home later and a man runs a red light at a high rate of speed. Are you, as a citizen, allowed to break speed limits and disobey rules of the road to initiate a pursuit of the "suspect?" Let's say, as a citizen, you used a pit maneuver to stop the fleeing "suspect" and he died in the crash, are you legally protect in those actions? There's a canyon of difference between a police officer restraining a suspect and a civilian attempting to restrain a police officer. You're simply being obtuse if you ignore that.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:11 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:Kenny from Walton and Johnson keeps repeating it. Maybe he's wrong. I don't know, but I think that's where I've heard that the most.
Never heard of that - don't believe it happened.
Either way, Chauvin doesn't deserve life in prison for 'murdering' Floyd.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:11 pm to the808bass
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They’re using the reserves of oxygen in their lungs. Which works until it doesn’t.
you have seen the video? was he able to take breaths or not?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:13 pm to Schleynole
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If chauvin would've died while floyd was kneeling on his neck the same way floyd would be in prison for life.
So if Chauvin would have ingested a lethal amount of drugs, attacked and harassed innocent people, then succumbed to his overdose whilst being restrained, Floyd would "be in prison for life"?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:15 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Why is he further down the list than random drug runners and execs?
Because the left will burn down some more of their own cities and rape and murder more innocent people if he was higher up?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:17 pm to JiminyCricket
If floyd was committing a crime when the cops showed up I would agree with you but he wasn't. He was sitting in his car.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:18 pm to BugAC
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So if Chauvin would have ingested a lethal amount of drugs, attacked and harassed innocent people, then succumbed to his overdose whilst being restrained, Floyd would "be in prison for life"?
Not sure what case you're talking about. Floyd was sitting in his car not messing with anyone when the cops showed up.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:19 pm to blueboy
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Either way, Chauvin doesn't deserve life in prison for 'murdering' Floyd.
He's slated to be released in just under 12 years.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:21 pm to Schleynole
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Not sure what case you're talking about. Floyd was sitting in his car not messing with anyone when the cops showed up.
I heard he was knitting sweaters for unwed mothers.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:24 pm to Schleynole
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If floyd was committing a crime when the cops showed up I would agree with you but he wasn't. He was sitting in his car.
What do the circumstances surrounding George Floyd's death have to do with the legality, or lack thereof, of a citizen restraining a police officer?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:30 pm to JiminyCricket
Cops make the rules and they don't hold themselves to the standard they should or the standard that they hold civilians to. It's a problem, it turns leo into nothing more than a gang. That's exactly what they've become
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:32 pm to Schleynole
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Exactly, so Chauvin should be treated the same.
Floyd wasn't murdered. He died of a drug overdose.
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