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re: Raymond Arroyo: Why Exorcisms are on the rise

Posted on 3/9/26 at 7:26 am to
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 7:26 am to
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But consider, what early people would call demons, we might call something else.


Demon comes from the Greek word daimon which basically referred to any spiritual entity. That word didn’t specifically refer to an evil entity but just towards any lesser “god.” A lot of the ancient world also didnt view demonic possession as a bad thing as it is viewed today.

And yes demons are real.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 7:49 am to
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I’ve seen some things.


These conversations always remind me of those documentaries from the 70s and 80s about insane asylums that led to them being shut down..



Those people aren't being controlled/influenced by demons. That is severe mental illness.

I learned at a relatively young age (before it was popular) about serial killers and how they were created. You ignore the common patterns of how abuse creates these walking pathologies and you could believe a demon was behind their atrocities, but if you don't ignore them, the picture becomes much more clear.

The fact that we've found many genetic components for other psychological illnesses that don't involve abuse is also a big strike against the demon theory.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:07 am to
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Who knew up/down votes affected going to Heaven or Hell


Thank God they don’t.

I have some pretty bad days on here.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:11 am to
All you have to do is think about how often Jesus would have been downvoted in his life.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:12 am to
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hope you pray for healing when you get gravely sick and get an exorcism rather than seeking assistance from modern medical physicians.


Tell me you know nothing about healing ministries without telling me you know nothing.

Listen to any minister, exorcist, or person with The healing gift, and none of them will dismiss the validity of medicine or mental health care
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:14 am to
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Demon comes from the Greek word daimon which basically referred to any spiritual entity. That word didn’t specifically refer to an evil entity but just towards any lesser “god.” A lot of the ancient world also didnt view demonic possession as a bad thing as it is viewed today.

And yes demons are real.



Accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior is connecting the physical with the spiritual realm. It leads to good and moral outcomes.

Channeling demons is also connecting the physical with the spiritual realm. It leads to chaos, death and destruction.


quote:

By their fruit you will recognize them.


This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 8:16 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:19 am to
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Channeling demons is also connecting the physical with the spiritual realm. It leads to chaos, death and destruction.

Do demons require "channeling" to be put in the position to influence people?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:25 am to
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Do demons require "channeling" to be put in the position to influence people?



As one could say yes to Jesus in the spiritual realm so can someone say yes to death (in the ancient Greek sense) in the demonic realm of the spiritual realm.

If you don't believe in the spiritual realm then all this would be nonsense to you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:37 am to
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As one could say yes to Jesus in the spiritual realm so can someone say yes to death (in the ancient Greek sense) in the demonic realm of the spiritual realm.

If you don't believe in the spiritual realm then all this would be nonsense to you.


I think it doesn't make sense to many people who believe in demons, who believe they can possess someone without "saying yes" (as you put it above)
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:38 am to
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Do you think demonic possessions and exorcisms are not real?
They are not real.
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:40 am to
Exorcist Files is the podcast
Nefarious is the movie. I haven’t seen it yet, but exorcists claim it’s spot on. I think the podcast did a segment with the producers who made it and they had some pretty wild stories about its production.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:44 am to
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Listen to any minister, exorcist, or person with The healing gift, and none of them will dismiss the validity of medicine or mental health care


Christian Scientists say hi.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:45 am to
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All you have to do is think about how often Jesus would have been downvoted in his life.


Haha. Truth.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:48 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:51 am to
Thanks.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:02 am to
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I think it doesn't make sense to many people who believe in demons, who believe they can possess someone without "saying yes" (as you put it above)


You can say yes, without intending to say yes. That is why the Catholic Church bans things like Ouija boards and tarot cards. There was a priest, one time, who made the analogy, to accidentally opening your front door to an ax murderer. You didn’t intend to let him in, but you open the door.


You can also open the door through repeated grave, mortal sin

Every Catholic exorcist, will tell you that a honest confession has more power than any exorcism.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:03 am to
Do ‘Angels’ exist? Is/was Jesus both a Spirit Being and a Human? Define Love; does Love exist or is such just another of the myriad of human emotions to promote social unity and survival? Is Darwinian Principle (competitive-based survival of the fittest) more efficient and effective than the Principle of Mercy for the weak in creating a stable society? Is Love ‘good’ and the absence of Love ‘evil’? Can a limited and therein ‘flawed’ Humanity ignore its innate competitive nature when acquiring extraordinary power via the acquisition of Knowledge (AI base)?

Do/can Parallel Universes exist as Space/Time Universal Law collapses via Entanglement Theory? Is Energy capable of Awareness; are we proof that such Is the case? Does the acquisition of Knowledge ultimately result in a ‘Singularity’ for the Entity which acquires said Knowledge? If a ‘Thing’ can be imagined is it then guaranteed to exist in an infinite time universe?

Do ‘Demons’ exist? So much to ponder re our existence and continuance. At least for those who love life. For those that have no love, does the continuance of life matter? Would those loveless spiritual entities be envious and hateful toward those who enjoy Love’s ‘Heaven’? Might this envy and resultant hatred be the basis for our current DEI-based disunity? Would the loveless enjoy seeing the loving suffer, as they do?

“Houston, we have a problem “.

Lord come quickly.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:39 am to
The entire movie is about a psychologist interviewing a death row inmate to determine if he is sane enough to be executed and he discovers the inmate is possessed. It all takes place in the prison, and it is only the interview, but I never once thought it was boring.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:50 am to
Well said.

There is a small town called Volant in PA or Ohio on the border.

The new wine mom Karen thing is a coven day of the witches. Money flows craft tents they dress like witches.

Some could say gimmicky but to those I ask...look up voo doo practices. Ask Clinton he wrote about in his book---' how Hillay and himself went to a voo doo ritual in Haiti.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 9:51 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23518 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 12:46 pm to
Threads like this always make me a bit uncomfortable, because of the flippant disregard some people display.

It's a disturbing concept, whether you believe it's real or no. And simply saying that you have no first or secondhand evidence of it, isn't enough to arbitrarily declare it doesn't exist. I've never been carjacked, that doesn't mean carjacking doesn't exist (I do know of someone who was, and had to kill the carjacker in defense).

The phenomenon we're speculating about isn't a casual thing, or even a wild animal attack. It's speculating about a hostile, malevolent attack by an entity that may be more intelligent and powerful than we are. That's something nobody would want to experience, and even if one is 99.9% sure it isn't real, I would think you'd be hesitant to openly mock or scorn it, for risk of the 0.1% chance it IS real. As in, that's not something to frick around with.
Not to single any posters out, but some folks like to push "legalese" responses... I don't think if you're dealing with a demon, you can try to use semantics; no, what i meant was actually X, etc. We see that in movies occasionally, but I think it extremely unlikely if it actually was happening.
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