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re: Rand will vote to BLOCK Trump ED on border funding.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:24 pm to themunch
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:24 pm to themunch
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Not for this we do not. It is too important to leave a bumbling Congress to do this.
They have proven the inability to act in favor of country due to TDS.
This will set a precedent that will bite the right in the arse. Guaranteed.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:26 pm to Joshjrn
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he's one of the few principled individuals left in the US legislature
Yep.
I see what have a bunch of the “ends justify the means” people on the board. We love our big gov’t with Executive overreach don’t we folks?
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:28 pm to upgrayedd
A lot of fake conservative government people in this thread.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:30 pm to Loserman
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It was a National Emergency Declaration
And it's a unilateral action by a sitting president.
Listen, Trumps just not an effective leader. Leaders build coalitions, compromise a bit to get what they want.
The issue here is Trump and his followers have railed on the "establishment" so long they've alienated people who could help.
So now people are bitching that the establishment doesn't support him enough, what the hell do people expect?
You cannot air things out, then go unilaterally declare emergencies or write EO's because you didn't get your way. Lead effectively, get people behind you, and go through the proper channels.
Trumps setting the precedent for an absolute shite show when the Democrats come to power.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:30 pm to kadillak
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A lot of fake conservative government people in this thread
To be fair, they didn't elect a conservative. So why expect conservatism?
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:30 pm to Aubie Spr96
Do we have an international border with Mexico? If the answer is yes then the federal government should have domain and the security of that border. I have all respect for state rights. I believe the border issue is not about state rights but about the federal responsibility for international border security. I would hope the Congress of these United States could set aside partisan and political motivations long enough to allow for security of our international borders.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No. Rand understands the precedent of using EO's to get what you want when it can't get passed through the normal channels the constitution provides is one hell of a slippery slope.
While unlikely, it's possible that additional gop senators vote to override the veto over the principle.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:31 pm to upgrayedd
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This will set a precedent that will bite the right in the arse. Guaranteed.
No doubt. Hell, it's already been mentioned by Dems running for president.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I agree with all of this.
Well said, roger.
Well said, roger.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:31 pm to kadillak
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A lot of fake conservative government people in this thread.
Yeah, no one likes a king unless it's their king
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:32 pm to Joshjrn
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Rand, as a congressman, believes that money spent by the US government should be appropriated by Congress. I agree with him.
Isn't the money being spent money that was already appropriated by Congress?
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Excellent summation sir. Well stated.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm sorry man, it's just a pet peeve of mine. I see it commonly, I picture a boarding house.
NP...
Back to topic. Rand is an open border guy. This should not be a surprise move by him.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:35 pm to Jjdoc
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Rand is an open border guy. This should not be a surprise move by him.
I don't believe he's truly an open border guy, but he's more open to real reforms than most traditional conservatives.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:35 pm to upgrayedd
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He's 100% correct. I want a secured border but it needs to go through congress.
It's already been through Congress and everyone has voted for it in the past. No one has done shite about it.
Finally someone with some balls to get it done. Lol at the "Next D Prez will EO it and tear it down"
Good luck with that
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:35 pm to upgrayedd
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He's 100% correct. I want a secured border but it needs to go through congress.
It did. Already passed. Not sure your issue.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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When the next Democrat announces a "Gun Emergency, Health Emergency and Climate Emergency" to institute socialist policy, I'll enjoy your reaction
You do understand that the National Emergency Act does not authorize the President to violate the Constitution.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:37 pm to upgrayedd
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Libertarians are ultimately pro open borders
nah
I literally posted 2 links that are libertarian websites that 100% state they are.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 12:37 pm to SirWinston
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Rand is so frustrating. Were at war for our beautiful country and hes worried about "muh principles".
This. He’s not realizing that open borders and free shite will ensure we never see another conservative government again and one day he might get thrown in jail for those principles.
This post was edited on 3/3/19 at 12:39 pm
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