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re: Rand Paul: I can't support a bill with the largest debt increase in US history
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:36 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:36 am to NC_Tigah
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Yeah, but the dollar was worth a whole lot more back then. Hell, you could hook up with a THOT Neanderthal in the nicest areas of an upscale cave for less than a buck.
Until you get divorced and she takes the mammoth
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:36 am to BamaCoaster
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Thanks for your three bullet points, but Rand’s point, and those of us who are critical thinking adults can understand, is that there is a lot of shite/pork in there, and as principled conservatives, he disagrees with the debt increase. As should you.
So Principled that they are no good to anything or anybody is what you meant.
This decreases spending and that's factual. Trump can not come in and get rid of a complete CONGRESS APPROVED Fiscal budget.
All that can be done is cutting away like we are.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:37 am to i am dan
No, Trump was pulling 5-6 trillion in revenue. The lies are, yes it adds over 3 trillion to the debt. What they are not telling you is that is over 10 years. It equates to just over 300 billion a year. In which it has not been that low since 2007. Either way you have to fix the economy before you can cut into the deficit and this goes a long way to repairing the economy.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:37 am to Seldom Seen
That's great. Isn't that why the system is set up the way it is? The House passes a bill and sends it to Senate. Then its the Senates job to continue finding ways to cut.
Get to work Senate.
Get to work Senate.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:38 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Maybe im taking crazy pills, but are there people who actually dont think this way?
Just people who understand that this cuts spending in the BIDEN BUDGET by 1.25 trillion.
Just people that understand not all cuts can be put into this due to SENATE RULES. It's simply not allowed. It has to be done via Rescission.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:39 am to HogX
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Until you get divorced and she takes the mammoth
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:39 am to i am dan
You think 3.5t is > than 30t?
The retards on this board, jesus christ. Also fyi the debt is 36t, not 30.
The retards on this board, jesus christ. Also fyi the debt is 36t, not 30.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:40 am to MikkUGA
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The lies are, yes it adds over 3 trillion to the debt.
1.25 TRILLION less than what it was.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:40 am to Sup Dog
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A little math for people that don't fully grasp our $30 Trillion Debt.
A million seconds ago was May 23rd
A billion seconds ago was 1993
A trillion seconds ago was 30,000 B.C.
The numbers we are dealing with aren't even real anymore. No human can really conceptualize what trillions of anything means. We can explain it, like you did, but that lacks any tangible, real world meaning. We talk about throwing another trillion dollars on the pile like people throwing a handful of spare change in a jar.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:41 am to BCreed1
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So he's voting against tax cuts
It's not a tax cut, if you are increasing spending.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:42 am to BCreed1
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So he's voting against tax cuts and cuts to medicaid in the Biden budget.
Got it.
You keep regurgitating the same talking points. Don't you have any new ones? There's more to this bill than tax cuts and cuts to medicaid. But hey... you've got talking points to go from.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:43 am to BugAC
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It's not a tax cut, if you are increasing spending.
Decreases spending by 1.25 Trillion
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So he's voting against More debt. Its that simple.
He’s actually voting FOR more debt just without the benefits of policy that come along with Trumps BBB.
By Rands own admission, congress is unwilling to reign in spending. That means it’s going to happen one way or another.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:44 am to MemphisGuy
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You keep regurgitating the same FACTS
Fixed it for you.
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There's more to this bill than tax cuts and cuts to medicaid.
1.25 trillion in cut from the Biden budget.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:44 am to BCreed1
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Nope. I am not.
So your argument is that someone that doesn't support the BBB is against the cuts that are made, but someone that supports it is not necessarily for the spending that remains. Do you not see the logical fallacy in your thinking?
In other words, I can be just as supportive of the spending cuts in the bill as you are but also believe the bill is a massive failure in terms of delivering on the "address spending and burn permanent Washington down" promise.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:44 am to moneyg
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He’s actually voting FOR more debt
No.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:49 am to David_DJS
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So your argument is that someone that doesn't support the BBB is against the cuts that are made, but someone that supports it is not necessarily for the spending that remains. Do you not see the logical fallacy in your thinking?
There isn't one. Either we take these cuts in spending or it will not pass. We both know this.
And again, more cuts via rescission.
Then Trump will give his budget for congress to vote on at the end of summer/beginning of fall.
That's the budget that needs to be balanced.
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In other words, I can be just as supportive of the spending cuts in the bill as you are but also believe the bill is a massive failure in terms of delivering on the "address spending and burn permanent Washington down" promise.
Once more. This is Biden's budget and cuts to his spending was made and more coming. Trump can not just replace his budget.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:50 am to BCreed1
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Decreases spending by 1.25 Trillion
How does that happen, when the CBO estimates BBB will increase deficit by $2.4 trillion and the BBB increases the debt ceiling by $4 trillion?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:51 am to LegendInMyMind
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The numbers we are dealing with aren't even real anymore
Well, rhe money isnt real either so I guess the shoe fits?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:52 am to BCreed1
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This is Biden's budget
Biden is not POTUS, chief.
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Trump can not just replace his budget.
He absolutely can. Trump is POTUS, Biden is not.
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