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re: Raffensperger refusing to testify about Georgia's voting machines

Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:29 pm to
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Right, but not independent ones.

Define "independent". I mean you've even had DEM and GOP states and federal bureaucracies all review these claims.

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You trust that those that may have committed the crimes are now suddenly going to put forth an honest investigation

Republicans committed the crime? Like the ones who control GA?
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:32 pm to
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I mean you've even had DEM and GOP states and federal bureaucracies all review these claims.


None of these are independent in my estimation.

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Republicans committed the crime? Like the ones who control GA?


Probably, but how are we to know?

Recounts?

To hell with that bullshite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:35 pm to
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None of these are independent in my estimation.






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Probably, but how are we to know?

Why would the Republican-controlled GA help the Democrats? How would they benefit from a Biden Presidency?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:41 pm to
What goal post was moved?

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Why would the Republican-controlled GA help the Democrats?


RINOs and Dems are on the same team…anti-American.

I consider Kemp and Raffensperger to be a RINOs. Always have. The goal posts are anchored, and not moving.

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 7:24 pm to
How many times is Trump going to lose in Georgia before you actually start to blame Trump himself? He’s the sole reason we have two democratic Senators. At what point do you think just maybe it’s something else besides ‘fraud’ or ‘rigging’?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 7:37 pm to
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At what point do you think just maybe it’s something else besides ‘fraud’ or ‘rigging’?


Independent audits?
Raffensperger actually testifying?

Those are two good starting points.

How come you can’t answer a direct question?

Perhaps doing so would short circuit your programming.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 7:47 pm to
You seem to be the one who doesn’t like answering questions.

I live in Georgia. The majority of the population here lives in the metro area not in the rural areas. The metro area is now comprised of people who are not from Atlanta or even Georgia. That happens when you have a lot of Fortune 500 companies. People come here for the high paying jobs. It’s extremely rare for me to meet someone who is an Atlanta native. Most my neighbors are from places like New York, New Jersey, Illinois, California, or Pennsylvania. These people don’t like Trump and aren’t going to vote for him under any circumstances. That’s how Trump lost Georgia. He alienated these people with his behavior and loud brash braggart lies. They aren’t going to vote for him and these people are flooding into Georgia in the hundreds of thousands by the year. That’s just reality. Trump didn’t lose Georgia because of fraud. He lost because of demographics. Demographics that aren’t trending in favor of any Republican candidate and certainly not Donald Trump. While Trump is liked in the rural areas he is disliked in the Metro area. Trump isn’t wining here in 2024 either that ship sailed long ago.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:06 pm to
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You seem to be the one who doesn’t like answering questions.


The fact that you actually wrote this clearly illustrates that you are either a disingenuous shitbag, or a Kamala level moron.

You repeatedly deflecting from a simple question definitively points to you being a shitbag.

The end.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:48 pm to
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s this a legal or logical argument?


Are you saying that there is zero evidence in Georgia of any issues with the vote?

Answer that

If yes, then the other should be triggered . Legally

If there is no evidence , according to you, you should be banned for being too ignorant for this board
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:57 pm to
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if they weren't exploited.


Statement of faith.
Posted by KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:05 am to
Democrats laugh at this focus. They went to other parts of the state and flipped them. Saginaw flipped and Grand Rapids flipped. There's your loss not some sort of opaque foolishness with mail in ballots, and voting procedure in a place where a dead Democrat could beat a living Republican in a landslide 10 out of 10 times.

So many of you are focused on the misdirection fake that you don't notice the QB has the ball and is running free 15 yards down the field.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23742 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:10 am to
And just tell us all how they"flipped" them. It sure wasn't by their noble deeds.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:21 am to
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Why else do you think they blew up his daughter’s boyfriend’s car?

And the agent with the GA Bureau of Inv was suicided.
Posted by KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
27614 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:42 am to
Turnout, turnout and no doubt electioneering. But Kent County and Saginaw is where the election was lost in Michigan. Trump actually gained a few votes in Detroit.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:20 am to
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Statement of faith.

Actually, a conditional statement.

Making a conclusion without evidence is the statement of faith.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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422891 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:22 am to
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What goal post was moved?

Your use of "independent" has moved well beyond what the vast majority of people would consider truthful or unbiased.

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RINOs and Dems are on the same team

And there you have it.

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I consider Kemp and Raffensperger to be a RINOs.

Sure, sure. You get to unilaterally determine all the things without any actual standards other than feelings.

I'll stick to facts and logic and not emotions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:23 am to
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re you saying that there is zero evidence in Georgia of any issues with the vote?

Define "issues with the vote".

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If there is no evidence , according to you

I never said there was no evidence. I said nobody has ever presented the evidence
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:27 am to
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So many of you are focused on the misdirection fake that you don't notice the QB has the ball and is running free 15 yards down the field.


You’re creating scenarios in your head to convince yourself there was no widespread voter fraud.

Saginaw county had a total of around 100k votes in 2016. Trump won the county by just over 1000 votes.

In 2020, Trump lost Saginaw county by 303 votes. He lost Wayne county by 320,000 votes.

fricking retard.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27614 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:15 am to
....and was always going to lose Wayne by about that amount. If you really want to get at it, Grand Rapids and the Detroit suburbs did Trump in. Trump's margins were a lot smaller in places like Grosse Pointe, etc in 2020 than in 2016.plus Trump lost the state by 100K votes. Doubtful that Detroit would have garnered 50K votes. But Kent, the surrounding counties in particular did Trump in. He got outworked by the Democrats and their organizations.

Trump won Michigan by 10k -11K votes in 2016, hardly a mandate. It was not inconceivable that the script got flipped in 2020. Plus the Democrat GOTV process is far superior to any the Republicans had.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34239 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:20 am to
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Making a conclusion without evidence is the statement of faith.


Which is what you have done as well.

I’d imagine that you would have made a great lawyer defending the mafia back in the day. Evidence…what evidence. Witnesses? They all committed suicide.
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