re: R pollster (who warned of wipeout for a year) says Rs will jump aboard impeachment

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A crypto pump and dump is all you have ?

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No, but that's the most obvious one.

And not just a pump and dump, but a pump and dump using a Presidential Executive Order to accomplish the pump.

It couldn't be a clearer case of using the office to personally profit, which is all that impeachment requires.

I hope they do. Above all else people are tired of the bullshite. Your new elected officials spending months attacking a president that is a lame duck anyway would set up 2028 to go HARD to the right.

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It would be an illegitimate

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No, it would be quite legitimate. Again, you'd say the same thing if it was someone you didn't like, such as Biden. Wouldn't you?

Y'all MAGA cultists are the loudest shouters of "elites profiting on the backs of citizens" in the universe. This is a clear cut case of doing that. Were y'all just full of shite this whole time? It's really o.k. for politicians to grift?

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hyper partisan

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How could it be hyper partisan if Republicans joined in?

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It would have the potential to lead to violence

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Don't be a hysterical little girl, of course it wouldn't. What it would do is set a precedent and would pierce the Ruling Class veil.

See, what you cultists are angry about is not that you really think it's o.k. that Trump did this. Any 7th grader can see that it's not. What you're angry about is that they all do it in some way or other and you're angry about the prospect of Trump not getting the same special treatment as the rest of them.

I kind of get that, but on the other hand, he's grifted so brazenly this term that he's been almost daring someone to do something about it.

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If you can remove a President simply because you don’t like them then you would have to question the legitimacy of said government

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Um, o.k., but I hope we both know that's not what would be happening.

Since you didn't take the deep breaths I asked you to take, I'll try to help you.

Has Trump committed a crime? I don't know. Not one that I am aware of.

Has Trump committed an impeachable offense? Yes, definitely.

Do I think they will impeach him? Of course. They already have two other times. For this? Probably not.

Do I think they seriously try to remove him from office? Absolutely.

Will Republicans join in? Probably not.

He broke no actual laws. His communication from the beginning has been law and order by the book. Remember he was the most investigated nominee/president in history. Zero means were discovered - the Dems had nothing.
Now what he has done is break open and expose the corruption. He has ripped the bandaid off and the central bank, deep state, Democrats and all others who participated are pissed about it. That’s what going after him is all about period.


He’s a president who committed to righting the wrong for the American people. The process of making things right again was never going to be roses and rainbows. But exposing and correcting the massive corruption is something that must be done for this country to continue to survive.

Impeach him for what?

Another phone call to Ukraine?

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Get rid of Trump first and get JD in.

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I think removing the first outsider to become president would make it impossible for any outsider to win in the future.

The anti-Trump conservatives are not thinking things through. If Trump is removed and JD actually rights the ship, that would allow democrats to tell people that they are needed to combat the conservatives who elected Trump.

If you are a republican, even if you've always hated Trump, you will be guilty by association.

It's also foolish to think the democrats won't sabotage JD just like they did Trump.

Hegseth is in major trouble,

Especially for blowing the drug boats out of the water, and then wiping out the survivors.

It's not unlike taking out a truck suspected of hauling drugs across the border with a missile and then strafing the survivors trying to run away.

Enough GOP senators already don't like Hegseth. And if the Dems get the White House, he could actually go to prison if Trump doesn't pardon him.

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He’s a president who committed to righting the wrong for the American people.

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He's a President committed to enriching himself and his whole family of grifters.

The sooner you wake up to the fact that Donald Trump doesn't give a shite about you or anyone else, the better off you'll be.

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if Trump doesn't pardon him

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Thats a good point, all of these planned investigations are dead on arrival if Trump pulls a Biden and issues blanket pardons for everyone.