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re: Question for the Massie cult
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:32 pm to DyeHardDylan
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:32 pm to DyeHardDylan
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Massie hasn’t changed since the last time Trump endorsed him. He’s been the most consistent congressman since Ron Paul. Trump changed - his second term has seen the resurgence of nation building, more inflation, the highest gas prices in years, and “it’s time to move on” from a child trafficking scheme. He tried to criticize Massie’s immigration record, but is literally campaigning for pro-amnesty Mike Lawler.
He joined with democrats to call Trump a pedophile and ousted a bunch of innocent people’s names as Epstein conspirators (and had to apologize).
He abandoned his constituents and engaged in a personal vendetta against Trump.
Then, he kissed Trump’s arse in his campaign ads because he knew his voters like Trump (Trump won his district by over 30 points.)
He’s a FRAUD and got what he deserved. He did everything to himself.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 8:33 pm
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:38 pm to SallysHuman
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If people really preferred Massie they'd have voted for him. Period.
No one is immune to propaganda.
But many people are allergic to BS.
A majority of them can differentiate between propaganda, BS and normal rhetoric.
I talk smack and am openly disgusted with my current Senator (Lankford- OK) and I plan to actively campaign for whoever will challenge him. But if it comes down to him running in the General against a Progressive Dim, I'll 100% hold my nose and vote for Lankford, even knowing he's only slightly better than the Dim. As a registered Independent, I'm already locked out of voting in Republican primaries in OK, it is what it is.
This is the system we're stuck with, and the only game they allow us to play. So, we either play or sit out. And if we sit out, we have little room to complain. One day, maybe we'll have had enough and upended the entire machine from the ground up. But change until then, will remain slow or absent.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:09 pm to stuntman
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Did you not read my post?
Yes, we did. I respect your work here and love your avatar.
We are not Argentina.
Our government is a Leviathan that cannot simply be taken out by lopping off the head with a chainsaw.
The body of the Leviathan would continue to writhe in pain and retribution and cause much damage and chaos to our country as it died. Instead, you must kill the Leviathan segment by segment while keeping the head of the Leviathan free to strike back and yet limiting its strikes with successful amputations of its supporting body.
Note, the exposing by DOGE and this administration of the corruption of USAID, NGO's Medicare fraud, voter fraud, welfare fraud, etc. etc. Many of which are in the initial stages of being corrected.
Besides chaos and temporary anarchy, what other option is there?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:03 pm to Deuces
Correct
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:12 pm to stuntman
This is an oversimplification that’s underscored by Cassidy’s defeat.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:24 pm to stuntman
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Massie didn't change.
bullshite. He only pushed the Epstein files as a way to get at Trump. He made his whole public persona about fighting Trump on the Epstein files and then on everything else.
Even when the files were released and didn't contain the evidence everyone wanted, he continued down the same path and even accused innocent men for political clout. He told people to donate to him in the middle of a press conference where he was advocating for supposed victims. Nothing about that is principled.
If Massie didn't change, then he has always had questionable character.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:26 pm to Speckhunter2012
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Besides chaos and temporary anarchy, what other option is there?
Joos.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:16 am to Speckhunter2012
Thanks for the reply, Speck. 
Argentina was in much, much worse shape than we are right now, yet it's turning around in a hurry. The reason is because Milei is actually gutting the hell out of government spending and it's grip on society through the regulatory state. I do think the same kind of thing could happen here if the right messenger came along w/ rock solid principles and a giant set of balls to stick to those principles. Thomas Massie, for instance.
Trump has done a few good things. Cracking down on illegals crossing the border is a big one and he deserves all the credit in the world for it. That said, you don't get rid of fraud by having government spend even more. You don't get rid of fraud by expanding the welfare state, which he's done.
As far as options go, it would take a critical mass of society understanding what massive government spending does to a society, it would take a critical mass of society to paying attention to promises made by politicians vs what is actually done while in office, it would take a critical mass of people to be willing to look outside the box of normal run of the mill, business as usual governance. We all hoped Trump was that guy. Again, definitely some good, which I'll take, but the man has us right back more involved in the ME and spending continues unabated.
Truth is that Americans just aren't hurting enough to realize how bad the feds are fricking us as we speak, and yes, Trump and the Republican party are a huge part of it. Massie was the ONE guy in all of DC who actually fought for the kinds of values Trump supporters were all in on less than just two years ago.
I've mentioned before that I'm not even upset. I'm not. I truly understand that I can't control any of this at all, which is kind of a liberating mindset. So, I just throw my views on things out there to test whether or not they need refining or changing.
Argentina was in much, much worse shape than we are right now, yet it's turning around in a hurry. The reason is because Milei is actually gutting the hell out of government spending and it's grip on society through the regulatory state. I do think the same kind of thing could happen here if the right messenger came along w/ rock solid principles and a giant set of balls to stick to those principles. Thomas Massie, for instance.
Trump has done a few good things. Cracking down on illegals crossing the border is a big one and he deserves all the credit in the world for it. That said, you don't get rid of fraud by having government spend even more. You don't get rid of fraud by expanding the welfare state, which he's done.
As far as options go, it would take a critical mass of society understanding what massive government spending does to a society, it would take a critical mass of society to paying attention to promises made by politicians vs what is actually done while in office, it would take a critical mass of people to be willing to look outside the box of normal run of the mill, business as usual governance. We all hoped Trump was that guy. Again, definitely some good, which I'll take, but the man has us right back more involved in the ME and spending continues unabated.
Truth is that Americans just aren't hurting enough to realize how bad the feds are fricking us as we speak, and yes, Trump and the Republican party are a huge part of it. Massie was the ONE guy in all of DC who actually fought for the kinds of values Trump supporters were all in on less than just two years ago.
I've mentioned before that I'm not even upset. I'm not. I truly understand that I can't control any of this at all, which is kind of a liberating mindset. So, I just throw my views on things out there to test whether or not they need refining or changing.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:28 am to DyeHardDylan
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According to data, the only group that went for Ed Gallrein was 65 and up. In other words, the group that sits at home being subsidized by younger generations
You talk about them being subsidized like they didn’t work for a lifetime to deserve what they have
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:30 am to jbdawgs03
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Did AIPAC pull those levers for Gallrein yesterday or did Massie’s own constituents?
I think Joe did.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:33 am to stuntman
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Trump has done a few good things. Cracking down on illegals crossing the border is a big one and he deserves all the credit in the world for it. That said, you don't get rid of fraud by having government spend even more. You don't get rid of fraud by expanding the welfare state, which he's done.
As far as options go, it would take a critical mass of society understanding what massive government spending does to a society, it would take a critical mass of society to paying attention to promises made by politicians vs what is actually done while in office, it would take a critical mass of people to be willing to look outside the box of normal run of the mill, business as usual governance. We all hoped Trump was that guy. Again, definitely some good, which I'll take, but the man has us right back more involved in the ME and spending continues unabated.
Truth is that Americans just aren't hurting enough to realize how bad the feds are fricking us as we speak, and yes, Trump and the Republican party are a huge part of it. Massie was the ONE guy in all of DC who actually fought for the kinds of values Trump supporters were all in on less than just two years ago.
I've mentioned before that I'm not even upset. I'm not. I truly understand that I can't control any of this at all, which is kind of a liberating mindset. So, I just throw my views on things out there to test whether or not they need refining or changing.
I agree with almost all of this.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:35 am to wackatimesthree
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:12 am to jbdawgs03
Enjoy the "win", neo-cons.
They're just about over.
They're just about over.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:30 am to stuntman
The Massie grift has ended.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:32 am to AUCom96
Here is some vagasil....for your wound. 
Posted on 5/21/26 at 5:31 am to jbdawgs03
Boomer Sean Hannity watchers voted for Ed. Israel knows they are the easiest to manipulate.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 5:37 am to PorkSammich
One irrelevant representative causes sooo much bleeding of the vag class
Posted on 5/21/26 at 5:45 am to PorkSammich
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Boomer Sean Hannity watchers voted for Ed. Israel knows they are the easiest to manipulate
Still pissed that DeSantis lost to Nikki and full of TDS
Posted on 5/21/26 at 6:15 am to jbdawgs03
quote:Overall turnout was under 25%
Did AIPAC pull those levers for Gallrein yesterday or did Massie’s own constituents? I’ll hang up and listen :)
More than 75% of voters in the district chose to not even show up.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 6:22 am to AUCom96
What’s your prediction for November?
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