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re: Question for Iran war supporters
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:01 pm to SlidellCajun
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:01 pm to SlidellCajun
i'm probably not when you would call Maga, but I voted for Trump, as it relates to what's going on in Iran, because I thought that he would not put troops in harms way, unless absolutely necessary.
I'm not privy to the intelligence on the Iranian nuclear program so I don't really know if what they did was 100% necessary to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
I can find only two options on why they did what they did:
1 They thought it was such an imminent threat that they had to do what they did when they did it, even though it was going to spike gas prices and hurt them in the midterms
2. They thought it was going to be easier than it was to topple the regime and/or control the Strait and were caught by surprise as it dragged on and on.
I'm not privy to the intelligence on the Iranian nuclear program so I don't really know if what they did was 100% necessary to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
I can find only two options on why they did what they did:
1 They thought it was such an imminent threat that they had to do what they did when they did it, even though it was going to spike gas prices and hurt them in the midterms
2. They thought it was going to be easier than it was to topple the regime and/or control the Strait and were caught by surprise as it dragged on and on.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:01 pm to SlidellCajun
For me, this is an added benefit of electing him. Yes, paying more for diesel for my truck hurts, but Iran’s regime has spent decades targeting Americans, directly and through its proxies. As an Afghanistan veteran, I believe this is the most justified war since World War II.
My primary hope is that weakening the regime will give the Iranian people an opportunity to overthrow it and reclaim their country from the mullahs. Eliminating Iran’s nuclear capability is secondary to me, but still necessary.
My primary hope is that weakening the regime will give the Iranian people an opportunity to overthrow it and reclaim their country from the mullahs. Eliminating Iran’s nuclear capability is secondary to me, but still necessary.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:02 pm to imjustafatkid
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Proof that the stupid live and walk among us.
I'm not at all surprised you get upset when people post the other side of things rather than pretending we are the innocent people in the world who never does wrong.
You need those lies and hate the truth.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:07 pm to SlidellCajun
quote:.
The question I have is for those that voted for Trump is - was your vote for Trump in part or entirely because he would use military force to attack Iran?
At the time of the election Iran wasn’t a forefront issue. They made themselves one by amping up their attacks, either directly or through proxies against American interests.
Promising no new wars and allowing America to become a doormat are not the same. I think most Trump supporters understand nuance.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:09 pm to SlidellCajun
I don’t give a shite we bombed some more goat humper terrorists, again. It also hurts Russia and China so win, win, win. Only problem I have with it is we didn’t let Israel nuke the bastards. I guess in that sense, it was a mercy “war”.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:11 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:Can you name a single successful regime change in modern history that occurred without 'boots on the ground?'
I think so, yes. Trump has shown himself to be capable of things people think aren't possible.
Air and naval forces can destroy an army, eliminate a leader, cripple infrastructure, impose blockades, undermine a government's ability to maintain control, and generally trash the whole place.
But...
What they cannot do is determine who actually governs afterward.
That requires somebody on the ground
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:11 pm to SundayFunday
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Every president going back to at least Bush has stated on numerous occasions that the United States should deal with Iran by force-
Even if that is true (it's not), all of them were smart enough not to do it.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:17 pm to SlidellCajun
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Mmm. Nah.
Mmm. Yeah.
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Trump doesnt much care for the balance of power so he plays games with words.
I’m sorry you’re mad at the fact congress has not declared war since 1942. No matter how mad it makes you, facts are facts and words have meaning.
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this continues”skirmish” continues and costs may trillions more and more lives are lost, you stand by the belief that it’s not a war?
When congress declares war, it becomes war. Glad we could figure it out.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:28 pm to 3down10
(Didn’t read)
you actually replied? You got nothing dog. Go waste these moments in your life somewhere else.
you actually replied? You got nothing dog. Go waste these moments in your life somewhere else.Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:29 pm to imjustafatkid
Soldiers that died say otherwise.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:35 pm to beerJeep
quote:But this is just an argument over the technical definition. The label is irrelevant. What matters is the actual costs, and geopolitical consequences. None of those change depending on what Congress chooses to call it.
When congress declares war, it becomes war.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:35 pm to SundayFunday
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you actually replied? You got nothing dog. Go waste these moments in your life somewhere else.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it doesn't actually matter if you read it or not. Your points were refuted and anyone who wants to read it is able to do so.
You hate the truth because you can't refute it and it exposes your lies.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:47 pm to Midget Death Squad
You need to learn definitions.
Your supposed education was a waste.
Your supposed education was a waste.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:47 pm to Go Down Moses
Smart enough not to do it?
Or just willing to send them pallets of cash and unfreeze billions in hopes of appeasing the mullahs, so they wouldn't attack our bases and vessels and not kill Americans (military and civilian?)
Or just willing to send them pallets of cash and unfreeze billions in hopes of appeasing the mullahs, so they wouldn't attack our bases and vessels and not kill Americans (military and civilian?)
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:49 pm to beerJeep
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When congress declares war, it becomes war. Glad we could figure it out.
Was the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-1871 a war? Congress never declared war, so I take it your opinion is that it was not a war. What about the First Sino-Japanese War in 1894-1895? What about the Rwandan Civil War from 1990-1994, which killed more than 500,000 people. Again, the U.S. Congress did not declare war, so these were not wars, is that right?
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:59 pm to SlidellCajun
quote:It was for closing the borders and getting rid of the third-worlders. Plus, he doesn't openly hate white people so that's refreshing.
The question I have is for those that voted for Trump is - was your vote for Trump in part or entirely because he would use military force to attack Iran?
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:02 pm to SlidellCajun
Less than 20 Americans have died.
It’s not a war. It was an attempt at removing a terrorist regime. It failed. Let’s get out and move on.
It’s not a war. It was an attempt at removing a terrorist regime. It failed. Let’s get out and move on.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:03 pm to SlidellCajun
quote:It's nothing compared to paying off the interest on the debt and social programs for third-worlders.
It’s hugely expensive at a time when we have historically high debt.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:06 pm to SlidellCajun
The first reply to this thread sums it up perfectly. I supported the war on Iran, but…
His voters supported it if it was get in, turn them to glass, regime change, get out. Instead it turned into another quagmire, which I do not support.
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There is no war happening
His voters supported it if it was get in, turn them to glass, regime change, get out. Instead it turned into another quagmire, which I do not support.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:24 pm to SlidellCajun
Iran is controlled by a muslim death cult who believe that they are commanded by their prophet to conquer the world in the name of allah.
They completely control and support three terrorist groups that attack our allies Saudi Arabia and Israel. The Iranians were supporting Venezuela among other terrorist groups around the world. Trump did the right thing in attempting to prosecute a war to remove the regime.
It is not Trumps fault we no longer have the will to fight a necessary war. That lies at the feet of the bush family.
Iran is the only war we should have fought in the Middle East. And if we leave the regime in place they will build a nuclear weapon and they absolutely believe that it is
allah's will that they use it.
They completely control and support three terrorist groups that attack our allies Saudi Arabia and Israel. The Iranians were supporting Venezuela among other terrorist groups around the world. Trump did the right thing in attempting to prosecute a war to remove the regime.
It is not Trumps fault we no longer have the will to fight a necessary war. That lies at the feet of the bush family.
Iran is the only war we should have fought in the Middle East. And if we leave the regime in place they will build a nuclear weapon and they absolutely believe that it is
allah's will that they use it.
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