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re: Question for Iran war supporters

Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70286 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

bullshite. The house has voted against it.


Congress did authorize the war on terror. I'm amazed there are people who don't know this.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70286 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:26 pm to
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We declare war on everything because it's propaganda.


My gosh. I hate to link wikipedia, but in this case it knows more than a lot of you about the War on Terror.

LINK

ETA: Yes, this is still in effect. Yes, it has been used as recently as Joe Biden's presidency as authorization for military force. I'm sure Trump has used it to authorize force somewhere also.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 4:28 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43378 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:27 pm to
quote:


Congress did authorize the war on terror. I'm amazed there are people who don't know this.


There is no such thing as a war on terror. It's just a broad brush so they can abuse the constitution and kill anyone they decide by labeling them terrorists.

The constitution says only congress can declare war. And if the house has voted against it, then you do not have the required support to have a war.

Not that you give a remote frick about the constitution.


Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42934 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

Please elaborate in great detail how this war with Iran has affected you or will affect you personally to make you very disappointed.



We just got swept by the Democrats and they will probably control the White House by 2028 so its affecting us in innumerable ways
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10691 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

The general feeling I get is that the MAGA crowd supports the current Iranian war. Seems the rationale is that a world without a Nuclear Iran is better than the alternative. Hard to argue with that.

The question I have is for those that voted for Trump is - was your vote for Trump in part or entirely because he would use military force to attack Iran?

For sake of reference

At Trumps election-night victory speech, he reiterated:
"I'm not going to start a war. I'm going to stop wars."



Yo


This Act like you cant comprehend basic concepts to avoid actually addressing anyones point - thing is so tiring


But to help educate you:

1) How about 876 U.S. service members killed by iran and iran-backed islamist groups since 1983?

1983 Beirut Embassy Bombing: 4

1983 Beirut Marine Barracks Bombing: 241

1984 Beirut Embassy Annex Bombing: 2

1985 TWA Flight 847 Hijacking: 1

1989 Murder of Col. William Higgins: 1

1996 Khobar Towers Bombing: 19

2003–2011 Iraq War Attacks: 603

2020 Camp Taji Attack: 2

2024 Tower 22 Attack: 3


2) How about domestic attacks/plots?

2011 – Plot to Assassinate the Saudi Ambassador in Washington, D.C

2008–2017 – Hezbollah Terrorist Surveillance Operations in New York City

2020–2021 – Iranian Intelligence Kidnapping Plot in New York - Iranian intelligence operatives allegedly attempted to abduct Iranian-American journalist and human rights activist Masih Alinejad from her residence in Brooklyn.

2021–2022 – IRGC Plot to Assassinate Former National Security Adviser John Bolton

2022 – Iranian-Directed Assassination Attempt Against Masih Alinejad - After the failed kidnapping effort, operatives acting on behalf of the Iranian government attempted to arrange Alinejad's murder in New York.

2024 – IRGC-Linked Plot to Assassinate Donald Trump (This counts regardless of the lefts approval of killing whoever they dont like because they dont like their politics)

3) And then we have the proven attempt by Iran to build a nuclear weapon

Do any of those meet your bar for reasons to assault iran in such a successful and no boots on the ground way?

Thats it for class today ,

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43378 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:29 pm to
quote:



My gosh. I hate to link wikipedia, but in this case it knows more than a lot of you about the War on Terror.

LINK

ETA: Yes, this is still in effect. Yes, it has been used as recently as Joe Biden's presidency as authorization for military force. I'm sure Trump has used it to authorize force somewhere also.


O do not care about abuses of the constitution. What you are talking about is illegal and against the law of the land.

It's an abuse of our government and you a piece of shite for defending it.

I think you are among the worst people on this earth.



Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
29915 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:29 pm to
Originally, yes. Trump didn't follow through on any of his threats and it cost him and the Republican Party dearly.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43378 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:30 pm to
quote:


Yo


This Act like you cant comprehend basic concepts to avoid actually addressing anyones point - thing is so tiring


But to help educate you:

1) How about 876 U.S. service members killed by iran and iran-backed islamist groups since 1983?

1983 Beirut Embassy Bombing: 4

1983 Beirut Marine Barracks Bombing: 241

1984 Beirut Embassy Annex Bombing: 2

1985 TWA Flight 847 Hijacking: 1

1989 Murder of Col. William Higgins: 1

1996 Khobar Towers Bombing: 19

2003–2011 Iraq War Attacks: 603

2020 Camp Taji Attack: 2

2024 Tower 22 Attack: 3


2) How about domestic attacks/plots?

2011 – Plot to Assassinate the Saudi Ambassador in Washington, D.C

2008–2017 – Hezbollah Terrorist Surveillance Operations in New York City

2020–2021 – Iranian Intelligence Kidnapping Plot in New York - Iranian intelligence operatives allegedly attempted to abduct Iranian-American journalist and human rights activist Masih Alinejad from her residence in Brooklyn.

2021–2022 – IRGC Plot to Assassinate Former National Security Adviser John Bolton

2022 – Iranian-Directed Assassination Attempt Against Masih Alinejad - After the failed kidnapping effort, operatives acting on behalf of the Iranian government attempted to arrange Alinejad's murder in New York.

2024 – IRGC-Linked Plot to Assassinate Donald Trump (This counts regardless of the lefts approval of killing whoever they dont like because they dont like their politics)

3) And then we have the proven attempt by Iran to build a nuclear weapon

Do any of those meet your bar for reasons to assault iran in such a successful and no boots on the ground way?

Thats it for class today ,


Now list all our terrorist attacks on them.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70286 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

There is no such thing as a war on terror. It's just a broad brush so they can abuse the constitution and kill anyone they decide by labeling them terrorists.

The constitution says only congress can declare war. And if the house has voted against it, then you do not have the required support to have a war.

Not that you give a remote frick about the constitution.


That's nice, but it is a war that Congress authorized. They did declare it. That was the authorization for going into Iraq and Afghanistan that the other poster was asking about.

It doesn't have anything to do with the Iran conflict though. That isn't a war. I don't think you're following the conversation very well because you seem to be confused.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65808 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

They did declare it.


No they didn’t.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70286 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

O do not care about abuses of the constitution. What you are talking about is illegal and against the law of the land.

It's an abuse of our government and you a piece of shite for defending it.

I think you are among the worst people on this earth.


What a strange response. Can you point to where I said I support the war on terror? You are extremely confused here.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43378 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:36 pm to
quote:


That's nice, but it is a war that Congress authorized. They did declare it. That was the authorization for going into Iraq and Afghanistan that the other poster was asking about.

It doesn't have anything to do with the Iran conflict though. That isn't a war. I don't think you're following the conversation very well because you seem to be confused.


You just don't care about the constitution, the rule of law or our republic.

And you're a dishonest piece of shite to pretend what's going on with Iran isn't a war, and that it's authorized.

You will burn in hell, I promise.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70286 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

No they didn’t.


We apparently have a lot of stupid people in this thread. Yes, Congress did authorize the war on terror. That isn't even a disputable fact.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70286 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

You just don't care about the constitution, the rule of law or our republic.

And you're a dishonest piece of shite to pretend what's going on with Iran isn't a war, and that it's authorized.

You will burn in hell, I promise.


Congress didn't authorize anything to do with Iran, and it isn't a war.

You're very confused, and not following the conversation.

And apparently very comfortable with declaring yourself God.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 4:39 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43378 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:37 pm to
quote:


What a strange response. Can you point to where I said I support the war on terror? You are extremely confused here.


frick off with your dishonesty.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
6388 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:39 pm to
Nice list.

And Reagan sold weapons to Iran and sent the money to fund revolution in Central America.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70286 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

frick off with your dishonesty.


You're very, very confused. Might need to take a break and re-read the thread.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43378 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:39 pm to
quote:


Congress didn't authorize anything to do with Iran, and it isn't a war.

You're very confused, and not following the conversation.


You're a liar and a piece of shite.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43378 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:39 pm to
quote:



You're very, very confused. Might need to take a break and re-read the thread.


I see you claiming the war with Iran isn't a war.

You're a dishonest piece of shite.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70286 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

You're a liar and a piece of shite.


Okay then. You clearly have no clue what you're talking about, but by all means please continue to make yourself look like an idiot.
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